Dumped my last 243.

Its all about personal circumstances, where you shoot and what you shoot most of. The 0.243 is great for roe and fox and will take red as well but if you are going to shoot a lot of red and the ranges are longer then I would use the 6.5 or 0.308 giving a bit more power to ensure a clean kill.
 
Nothing wrong with 243, its all down to bullet choice and shot placement. Would use one all the time if my bosses would let me

Al
 
I took the new S&W .44 magnum out today. Off hand at 25M I shot about 2.5 inches for five shots with 21 grains of Lil Gun behind a 260 grain bullet. At 50M I was breaking clay birds and hitting 12 oz soda cans. I think it's a keeper.~Muir
 
That is very good shooting. Would that be your hunting load?
edi

Thanks Edi.
I think not on the hunting load. With the sights screwed down all the way it still hit 3" high at 25M. At 50 I was having to hold 5" low. I could speed that 260 grain load up a bit and hope for a lowering of POI, but that would involve a heavier recoil. (It's not too bad now but on the verge of getting snorty) I have 215 and 238 grain molds I'll probably put to use. I can get those into the 1500+ fps range with no problems and both are proven performers. ~Muir
 
Thanks Edi.
I think not on the hunting load. With the sights screwed down all the way it still hit 3" high at 25M. At 50 I was having to hold 5" low. I could speed that 260 grain load up a bit and hope for a lowering of POI, but that would involve a heavier recoil. (It's not too bad now but on the verge of getting snorty) I have 215 and 238 grain molds I'll probably put to use. I can get those into the 1500+ fps range with no problems and both are proven performers. ~Muir

Not sure if I understand that right. The ammount of recoil is responsible for changing POI ? She starts raising the barrel before the bullet leave the barrel is that right?
I'd enjoy playing with such a revolver, they just don't let us here.
edi
 
Muir, .243 seems to be too much of something and not enough of another in my view. The .44 Mag will be much more fun to own!

ATB,

Scrummy
 
Works fine for me as long as I do my bit, but agree it is a bit on the light side for the big stuff....

I reckon it's still as popular now as it was in the 50's....... even if it is a wildcatter !

Rgds,Buck.
 
Not sure if I understand that right. The ammount of recoil is responsible for changing POI ? She starts raising the barrel before the bullet leave the barrel is that right?
I'd enjoy playing with such a revolver, they just don't let us here.
edi

Yes. The faster the bullet is traveling, comparatively speaking, the lower the point of impact. It's not really recoil, per se, but angle of departure. My Redhawk .44 will shoot 2" high with my favorite Lyman bullet and 7.5 grains of Unique. The same bullet over a stiff charge of Alliant 2400 or AA 5744 will shoot the point of aim. Of course, the weight of the bullet and the weight of the gun have much to do with this effect. It is why some guns like my 1929 vintage Hand Ejector S&W .44 Special with fixed sights has one load I shoot through it. It was the load that planted the bullet 1" above the front sight at 25 yards. Rifles are the same way. My Husqvarna 8x57 has plain iron sights and is regulated for a 196 grain bullet. The 170's shoot low, and the 225's a bit high. It's a fun exercise in reloading.~Muir
 
Yes. The faster the bullet is traveling, comparatively speaking, the lower the point of impact. It's not really recoil, per se, but angle of departure. My Redhawk .44 will shoot 2" high with my favorite Lyman bullet and 7.5 grains of Unique. The same bullet over a stiff charge of Alliant 2400 or AA 5744 will shoot the point of aim. Of course, the weight of the bullet and the weight of the gun have much to do with this effect. It is why some guns like my 1929 vintage Hand Ejector S&W .44 Special with fixed sights has one load I shoot through it. It was the load that planted the bullet 1" above the front sight at 25 yards. Rifles are the same way. My Husqvarna 8x57 has plain iron sights and is regulated for a 196 grain bullet. The 170's shoot low, and the 225's a bit high. It's a fun exercise in reloading.~Muir
That makes sense, goes hand in hand with what we are trying to achieve with our stocks.
Only problem I presume is that one needs to hold the gun always in the same way.
edi
 
That makes sense, goes hand in hand with what we are trying to achieve with our stocks.
Only problem I presume is that one needs to hold the gun always in the same way.
edi

Very perceptive ejg. Am learning pistol shooting atm and consistent hold and trigger release are the most difficult things to master.

ATB,

Scrummy
 
Like all things, consistency is important. My old pistol coach gave me (drilled into me) this advice for grip on a handgun: Never grip with the thumb. Grip with the three fingers on the shooting hand until the sight picture trembles, then ease off til the trembling stops. It makes for a very consistent hold, every time and works for all calibers from air pistol to 500 S&W.

Sighting: Never focus on the target. Primary focus is on the front sight. Secondary focus is on the alignment of the front and rear sight. Tertiary attention is the relationship of the sight picture on the target -which should appear out of focus. Apply pressure to the trigger when the sight picture is aligned with the target, hold pressure when it drifts off. If you find yourself shifting your focus to the target at any time you've most likely blown the shot. Sight alignment is far more critical than the precise location of the sights on the target.

Just passing on some old wisdom....~Muir :old:
 
Will try the finger trip Muir, I have a tendency to drag wood a bit with the trigger finger and I wonder if the thumb "working too hard" could be a contributing factor...

ATB,

Scrummy
 
Will try the finger trip Muir, I have a tendency to drag wood a bit with the trigger finger and I wonder if the thumb "working too hard" could be a contributing factor...

ATB,

Scrummy

"All pistol shooters should have their thumbs amputated" as my coach would say. The strong hand thumb should be limp. Practice dry-firing with your Smith. It works. I've taught many, many shooters to use this technique.
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It even works hunting. This is my Son a few years back with his beloved Model 28 Highway Patrolman 357.~Muir
 
"All pistol shooters should have their thumbs amputated" as my coach would say. The strong hand thumb should be limp. Practice dry-firing with your Smith. It works. I've taught many, many shooters to use this technique.

It even works hunting. This is my Son a few years back with his beloved Model 28 Highway Patrolman 357.~Muir

oooh, M28! Very nice matey!

Now, I don't want my thumb amputated, I'll have trouble using my bolt actions and I won't be able to use the decocked on my Sig 226 so easily!

ATB,

Scrummy
 
It 'IS' :-D

The problem is it is 'too' perfect - unless you shoot boar or elk, etc. you only need the one rifle, and that stinks if you're a gun-lover;)

I think I'm psychologically trying to convince myself the .243 isn't great so I can justify having a bunch more rifles on either side of the calibre spectrum, but in reality, I'd probably be fine with just my 75 in .243 for everything I do 99% of the time, and shoot better because of it:oops:

Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I would love to have a bunch of different calibres, a .243 is the cheaper option.
(but if you can't shoot get something bigger :stir:)
 
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I would love to have a bunch of different calibres, a .243 is the cheaper option.
(but if you can't shoot get something bigger :stir:)

Which is why I have a 6.5x55mm for everything that the .22LR can't do - which is everything bigger than "Bugs"
 
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