Monkey Sticks !!

[Alantoo]

deer man

"The back piece is cut to allow your cheek to rest on the but. Ive cut both mine(front and rear) so it doesn't matter which way you have the sticks. You will always have a cut section at the rear."​

Thank you deer man,

Yes I remember reading on another quad stick making thread about cutting the back one down to clear your cheek. At the time I could not understand why they were so long in the first place. Still can't!

If the top pivot was just closer to the tips, would there be any disadvantage? They would then be good for right or left handed shots.

I have not seen any without the long extensions and am curious why.

​Alan

 

[Paul 600]

I will measure mine but I think there only 100-150mm.

 

[Monkey Spanker]

Perhaps you have stupid deaf deer where you live!

Not at all mate, but we do have large areas of flat open land compared to your neck of the woods!
You can't always stalk that close to a deer. Quad sticks have far more stability than a tripod and are therefore more forgiving with a novice at longer ranges.
As said, I also believe I can set up on quads quicker and quieter than a tripod anyway!
I can only assume that you haven't actually tried them properly? I think everyone I know that has would never go back to a tripod!
MS

 

[Monkey Spanker]

I have not seen any without the long extensions and am curious why.

​Alan

If the notch is too shallow, the rifle can sit on top rather than rest inside and could slip. It also allows you to hold the top of the stick and lock your arm straight when using them as twin sticks rather than hold the rifle with a bent arm (increased stability by use of skeleton and rigid locked joints!). I'm sure they could still be used shorter to good effect which might be useful if you are a guide who takes out the odd left-hander, but for another £10 you could just make another pair of more suitable left-handed sticks?
MS

 

[Offroad Gary]

Not at all mate, but we do have large areas of flat open land compared to your neck of the woods!
You can't always stalk that close to a deer. Quad sticks have far more stability than a tripod and are therefore more forgiving with a novice at longer ranges.
As said, I also believe I can set up on quads quicker and quieter than a tripod anyway!
I can only assume that you haven't actually tried them properly? I think everyone I know that has would never go back to a tripod!
MS

I was just ribbing ya about stupid deer! We have quite a lot of downland here, long shots are the norm if you want results. Ive tried quad sticks myself, not bad but prefer a proper shot off prone bipod, or if up close using twin/tripod sticks to support my front hand. Be interested to know typical ranges you are using these sticks at when stalking?

 

[Monkey Spanker]

Be interested to know typical ranges you are using these sticks at when stalking?

To be honest Gary, I'm as happy shooting off these sticks as I am off a bipod whilst laying prone as I can shoot just as accurate. I'm sure you would love me to 'quantify' exact ranges but I'm not going to open myself up for abuse!
I do however know my limits and stay comfortably within them! Much depends upon what I'm shooting at and what it is doing at the time.
MS

 

[Alantoo]

If the notch is too shallow, the rifle can sit on top rather than rest inside and could slip. It also allows you to hold the top of the stick and lock your arm straight when using them as twin sticks rather than hold the rifle with a bent arm (increased stability by use of skeleton and rigid locked joints!). I'm sure they could still be used shorter to good effect which might be useful if you are a guide who takes out the odd left-hander, but for another £10 you could just make another pair of more suitable left-handed sticks?
MS

Ah okay, I can understand the advantage of being able to get more height and/or accommodate a broader fore end when used as twin sticks. It seems a bit awkward to lock your arm grasping just one side rather than under the barrel around the bungee joint but I will try when I have made them up. The extra length legs would not be advantageous in this respect when used as quads? Your notch width would still be limited by the length of the short leg?

Now I am wondering about making a set up with two fixed yokes, e.g. pivoting a pair of telescopic bipods, or even a bipod pivoting off two legs of a tripod so the third leg would set elevation as posted earlier? That would mean the notch was at constant width regardless of height/foot spacing. It would only take half an hour to set up, quicker than erecting a high seat

The mind boggles!

A lot more expensive than your solution though!

Alan

 

[Offroad Gary]

To be honest Gary, I'm as happy shooting off these sticks as I am off a bipod whilst laying prone as I can shoot just as accurate. I'm sure you would love me to 'quantify' exact ranges but I'm not going to open myself up for abuse! I do however know my limits and stay comfortably within them! Much depends upon what I'm shooting at and what it is doing at the time. MS

​very diplomatic, woulnt want to upset the distance police!

 

[Monkey Spanker]

​very diplomatic, woulnt want to upset the distance police!

Indeed!
But they are stable enough to take head and neck shots!
MS

 

[Offroad Gary]

Indeed!
But they are stable enough to take head and neck shots!
MS

What about runners?

 

[Paul 600]

I will measure mine but I think there only 100-150mm.

​Short side 90mm standard length 120mm.

 

[Alantoo]

What about runners?

They are not open season at the moment, nor are hikers....you should know that as a professional

 

[limulus]

You need to try a set of mine Gary...quiet, fast to set up and light....and good value to boot

 

[Offroad Gary]

You need to try a set of mine Gary...quiet, fast to set up and light....and good value to boot

I use stoney point tripod, the true professionals choice. Shot my first roebuck off one, and a few more things since. Had a brief spell with twin sticks, and have used quads but the ultimate is the stoney point. Really didnt get on with being locked into a quad stick cradle and not being able to adjust freely.

 

[Paul 600]

Gary, I like many shot using a single stick then a set of twins then moved onto a tripod. I really like the tripod and I am used to them and very reluctant to change. I even considerd buying a set of carbon fibre bogpods of Aftab! I've tried the quads and didn't like them but they are growing on me. They are most certainly more stable than the tripods but they do take practice! You won't be taking prone shots once you get used to them! Give them a try but practice practice.

 

[Grand Slam]

As MS mentioned earlier i am one of the lucky one's to have received a set of these quad sticks from him. All i can say i think my days of shooting prone are now over. Took them out on the bunnies, easy to set up with no noise, easily adjustable, lightweight. Will be carrying on the practice in preparation for the H4H shoot in Monmouth.

Cheers again Mick

​Adam

 

[Offroad Gary]

Gary, I like many shot using a single stick then a set of twins then moved onto a tripod. I really like the tripod and I am used to them and very reluctant to change. I even considerd buying a set of carbon fibre bogpods of Aftab! I've tried the quads and didn't like them but they are growing on me. They are most certainly more stable than the tripods but they do take practice! You won't be taking prone shots once you get used to them! Give them a try but practice practice.

​I think i'll stick with the prone shots.

 

[Glendine]

Gary, I like many shot using a single stick then a set of twins then moved onto a tripod. I really like the tripod and I am used to them and very reluctant to change. I even considerd buying a set of carbon fibre bogpods of Aftab! I've tried the quads and didn't like them but they are growing on me. They are most certainly more stable than the tripods but they do take practice! You won't be taking prone shots once you get used to them! Give them a try but practice practice.

Well said.

 

[Offroad Gary]

Mind you, I'm quite fond of the wing mirror on my navara, now that is steady. And its got heated seats

 

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View attachment 28591View attachment 28592here some i made a year ago i love them rock steady, and once you get use to them very quick to use