Blaser, love them or hate them?

Guilty as charged ! I'm being a bit of a troll ! Whilst you say there not as bad as people make out I'm saying there not as great as people make out ?

​ultimately own what you like , it's your money !
 
Check out WMS firearms training review on the R8
Says it all really.
everyone that has commented on this should google Blaser R8 and scroll down till you find the WMS review.

I like the comment on the end!
"Does it shoot better than a PGW or an Accuracy International? Hell no, but it is pretty close and less than half the weight and price!"

Plenty on here take Thier AI hunting. Maybe to shoot deer at 1000yards! :popcorn::norty:
 
Vipa,
They just need to get out more and do some real stalking instead of the armchair stuff !

Why?

Its wet outside, the deer are hard to find in this changeable wild wind, there is a cold beer in the house, the armchair is really, really comfy and winding up Blaser owners is almost as good sport as stalking deer.... :stir:
 
Vipa,
They just need to get out more and do some real stalking instead of the armchair stuff !

Seeing some of the lads that have been posting on this thread and those of us that know them, what they do, and how many deer they shoot the above comment makes you look pretty stupid, still it made me smile. :rofl: It falls into the same bracket as you can’t afford one comment, just personal insults when you have lost the logical argument.

I paid £2,200 for my R8 Pro, new and A sako 85 synthetic is what.... £1,400? equivalent quality and build of most other european rifles.. Mauser, Sauer, Steyr et al are all around the same price as the Blaser and if not, they aren't a million miles away. Ok.. with some you might get a fancy bit of wallnut instead of composite but so what... £800 from synthetic sako to synthetic Blaser is hardly a munumental financial leap if you are in that kind of market.

In 2000 you could buy a Tikka for under £500, the top line Sako Finlight for under £1,000 and a Blaser R93 for the same price as a Sako. So why today is a Blaser 40% more than a Sako? It is not just the price of the rifle, it is the £300 for the mounts on top of the rifle. :suss:

As for Blaser owners getting upset you only have to see some of the bites we have had on this post to see the truth in it. :stir: I see most of you have ignored the report on the failed Blasers.

ATB

Tahr
 
Seeing some of the lads that have been posting on this thread and those of us that know them, what they do, and how many deer they shoot the above comment makes you look pretty stupid, still it made me smile. :rofl: It falls into the same bracket as you can’t afford one comment, just personal insults when you have lost the argument

fascinating to to see the posts in this thread
thars quote made me look back
anti-blaser people seem to post a lot on SD
pro's less so
So maybe Blaser owners go hunting more and know what they are talking about
whilst those that don't post on forums?
the language on here on SD from some postings fits the definitions of trolling, which is IMO a symptom of the socially inept and inadequate
and really, does one have a real life if putting 4k+ of posts on forums? Get out more
If people were not hiding behind avatars one wonders if they would be so bold
SD is IMO being destroyed by the bahaviour of a vocal minority, as are many forums that started out with good intent
lets have some proper comment and debate! and behave in a civil manner
​if we cannot I for one am signing off
 
Seeing some of the lads that have been posting on this thread and those of us that know them, what they do, and how many deer they shoot the above comment makes you look pretty stupid, still it made me smile. :rofl: It falls into the same bracket as you can’t afford one comment, just personal insults when you have lost the argument

fascinating to to see the posts in this thread
thars quote made me look back
anti-blaser people seem to post a lot on SD
pro's less so
So maybe Blaser owners go hunting more and know what they are talking about
whilst those that don't post on forums?
the language on here on SD from some postings fits the definitions of trolling, which is IMO a symptom of the socially inept and inadequate
and really, does one have a real life if putting 4k+ of posts on forums? Get out more
If people were not hiding behind avatars one wonders if they would be so bold
SD is IMO being destroyed by the bahaviour of a vocal minority, as are many forums that started out with good intent
lets have some proper comment and debate! and behave in a civil manner
​if we cannot I for one am signing off

​Bye then , it's been emotional x
 
Seeing some of the lads that have been posting on this thread and those of us that know them, what they do, and how many deer they shoot the above comment makes you look pretty stupid, still it made me smile. :rofl: It falls into the same bracket as you can’t afford one comment, just personal insults when you have lost the argument

fascinating to to see the posts in this thread
thars quote made me look back
anti-blaser people seem to post a lot on SD
pro's less so
So maybe Blaser owners go hunting more and know what they are talking about
whilst those that don't post on forums?
the language on here on SD from some postings fits the definitions of trolling, which is IMO a symptom of the socially inept and inadequate
and really, does one have a real life if putting 4k+ of posts on forums? Get out more
If people were not hiding behind avatars one wonders if they would be so bold
SD is IMO being destroyed by the bahaviour of a vocal minority, as are many forums that started out with good intent
lets have some proper comment and debate! and behave in a civil manner
​if we cannot I for one am signing off

Generally when Blaser owners pass comment it is because they have something mature and sensible to say, sometimes anti Blaser people make childish comments, bearing in mind the public nature of this forum I wonder what their local FLD's make of this.

But if you do not like Blaser rifles why buy one in the first place? And if you choose not to and buy some other make why make inappropriate comments about something that you neither own or use?

atb Tim
 
I see most of you have ignored the report on the failed Blasers.

ATB

Tahr

Tahr

We ignore it because every time there's a thread on Blasers you drag that same old item out of your draft folder and post it ;) Maybe next time a Blaser thread starts I'll just post that item for you and be done with it :-D

Last time you posted it I responded with this one about about Sako barrel blow-ups: Helsingin Sanomat - International Edition - Consumer but of course you missed or ignored that!

I would guess every rifle manufacturer has their share of faults and design failures. At the end of the day, that's manufacturing.

Does it mean every rifle Sako and Blaser have ever made is a dud? Of course not. I had a Sako and was very happy with it and now I have a Blaser and I'm very happy with it. What does that prove? Nothing. I just don't feel the need to wind owners of other rifles up about their choice.

No-one in this thread has suggested Blasers are perfect, no-one has stated that a Blaser is the best rifle in the market, and no-one has suggested that if you don't have a Blaser you are somehow less of a hunter, so why does a Blaser thread always have to result in Rifle Top Trumps? At the end of the day this is a Site about deer and deer stalking, not who's got the "best" rifle.

The OP posed the question "Blaser, love them or hate them". Love and Hate are irrational emotions, as this thread has unerringly proved.

willie_gunn
 
Seeing some of the lads that have been posting on this thread and those of us that know them, what they do, and how many deer they shoot the above comment makes you look pretty stupid, still it made me smile. :rofl: It falls into the same bracket as you can’t afford one comment, just personal insults when you have lost the logical argument.



In 2000 you could buy a Tikka for under £500, the top line Sako Finlight for under £1,000 and a Blaser R93 for the same price as a Sako. So why today is a Blaser 40% more than a Sako? It is not just the price of the rifle, it is the £300 for the mounts on top of the rifle. :suss:

As for Blaser owners getting upset you only have to see some of the bites we have had on this post to see the truth in it. :stir: I see most of you have ignored the report on the failed Blasers.

ATB

Tahr

and optilock rings and bases are free are they? Get a life... Tell you what, my Blaser mounts were a damned sight cheaper than the equivalent sako stuff when I bought my R8 2 years ago! The mount and pic rail for my TRG came in at a combined £500... I really can't see your point? Do you troll the Porsche forums telling tem they should all be buying fords instead?

as far as failed blasers is concerned..... You might have a point if there had never ever been a failed sako, tikka, Remington.....and all the others out there but I am willing to bet the proportion of failed blasers is no worse and probably even better than other marques.

you don't like blasers... I think we have got that... You don't need to keep telling us!
 
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Seeing that you have quoted me I will assume that maybe you post is directed at least in part to me.
Trolling is difficult to define, I walk into my office at work and there will be wind up between various people normally over which football team they support and how they went on, is this face to face trolling? What is the different on here? I highlight the catastrophic failure of the rifle in question with photos and reports to back this up, that’s not “trolling” it is providing information to a wide public, just because you don’t like it does not make it trolling. This is a discussion forum after all. See my thoughts on your post below.

anti-blaser people seem to post a lot on SD pro's less so

The fact that they are more anti than pro might tell you something about the product.

So maybe Blaser owners go hunting more and know what they are talking about
whilst those that don't post on forums?

You make this comment without even knowing anything about the people posting, it is just attempt at an insult and then you say the following. :roll:

lets have some proper comment and debate! and behave in a civil manner

Well I am married with children, have professional job in which I think I am highly respected, arrange events in my local community, raise money for charity, am involved with local non-profit make organizations, have lots of friends. Not sure I fall into you following description.

IMO a symptom of the socially inept and inadequate

It is just another attempt at personal insults, who is the troll here? :suss:

and really, does one have a real life if putting 4k+ of posts on forums?

What has the number of post have to do with it, I have been on here since the site started, some the guys are retired and have a lot of times on their hands, with a I-phone you can post while sitting in a high seat waiting for deer, perhaps these with all the posts are actually out more than others? :D

If people were not hiding behind avatars one wonders if they would be so bold

You may hind behind a avatar but if you have been around long enough and are getting the most out of the site you will get round to meeting other members, just because you don’t know others off here personally don’t think that some of us don’t know at least some.

as are many forums that started out with good intent
​if we cannot I for one am signing off

I saw the same thing posted when the site first started and it has gone from strength to strength, the site is well monitor by admin and I see your post as a criticism of Malc’ Alex and John who run the site. So if the site is not for you go else were and you will find that the SD is quite a nice balanced place after all IMO

Bye bye

ATB

Tahr
 
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One catastrophic failure Thar...... One.... Allegedly caused by user error, In all the product Blaser have in the field, both in civilian and military hands... Hardly a damning indictment of the brand!

We put lumps of metal in a tube, pack some explosive material behind them and put a match to it..... I think it's pretty safe to say things, thankfully on rare occasions, will go horribly wrong. It matters not who the manufacturer is.. And will, in most cases be down to monumental pilot error.

you post pictures and criticise the brand as inherently unsafe and at fault contrary to the findings at the time on a well read and busy forum... I would suggest you are overstepping the line between personal preference and opinion and venturing very firmly into the land of potential libel! If I were Blaser I would be reading your posts with interest, particularly as they could sway opinion of the company and thier products within the uk stalking community!
 
The fact that they are more anti than pro might tell you something about the product.

ATB

Tahr

Yeah right :D

Do you honestly believe the number of negative posts bears any relevance at all to the quality of the product? My guess is that many of those posting negative comments about Blasers haven't used them and haven't owned them, otherwise why would they feel the need to quote "trade sources" and "marketing"??

Uninformed opinions always remind me of Mark Twain's quote:

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Way too many on here just in it for the Blaser Baiting ;)

willie_gunn
 
I find this fascinating.

I have used a Blaser when they first came into the UK. A mate owned one. I was using Sako's at the time. His rifle was the R93 Off-road.
I saw him kill more game with that rifle with less faffing about with load workup than any rifle since then, or now.

I have personally seen blown-up Remington's, a blown up Sako and a Tikka. (I used to help out at an RFD) As mentioned these are tools produced by man, none are infallible when taken beyond the design limit.

If you want to hear horror stories, talk to the custom action builders and they can give you chapter and verse with regard to the design flaws for all the popular factory produced rifles...you won,t sleep for a week.

As for the rabid wind up merchants, for me, the authors tone reminds me so much of the losers I used to come across in the school playground behind the bike sheds. I'm sure they are in reality, not like that. But that's the impression I get.

Yes a Blaser is expensive, but considering the production costs of all rifle manufacturers' I bet Remington are by far, more overpriced than anything produced by the Germans.

ATB
 
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I have had some beautiful and very accurate rifles over the years, none were bad and none let me down but none 'folded up' as well my Blaser.
I love my Blaser, it's as good as any other I have had but due to it's versatility and compactability, that is the one I am sticking with now.
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me or make me change my mind !!
 
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