About as long as it takes you to repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the same old question. You haven't figured out yet that he isn't going to answer you.
Interesting open letter concerning the lead shot/ammunition ban
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No the rules of competition stipulate the type of ammunition. I believe it is being reviewed.
But shouldn’t he if he has all this overwhelming evidence?About as long as it takes you to repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the same old question. You haven't figured out yet that he isn't going to answer you.
Conor O'Gorman
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I am sure you could muster a PM - and maybe we can chat about it.Despite me being a bit rough around the edges it is best I don't answer that on here via email/pm or the phone or anything that might require the few remaining codebreakers from hut 6 at Bletchley Park
Conor O'Gorman
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Historic firearms of all sorts are being used with steel shot for hunting and target shooting in USA and Denmark. Bill has been writing about the use of steel shot in various historic firearms with no damage reported. The various scaremongering about steel shot will run its course in the lead up to 2029 and beyond.
This article is well worth a read:
Life without lead - the Danish perspective - Sporting Gun
Danish shooter and fieldsports journalist Thorkild Ellerbaek gives his views on a shooting life without lead, following its ban in Denmark in 1996 credit: fotografhuset (Pictures provided by: Brian Rasmussen, Fotografhuset) Denmark introduced a total ban on the use of lead shot for hunting and...
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Exactly the law is enforced on the few not the many by banning drinking, or banning vehicles,
so why ban lead shot for clay shooting because of the few selfish game shooters who used lead shot for duck drives?
enforce the law, to do otherwise is illogical.
Historic firearms of all sorts are being used with steel shot for hunting and target shooting in USA and Denmark. Bill has been writing about the use of steel shot in various historic firearms with no damage reported. The various scaremongering about steel shot will run its course in the lead up to 2029 and beyond.
This article is well worth a read:
Life without lead - the Danish perspective - Sporting Gun
Danish shooter and fieldsports journalist Thorkild Ellerbaek gives his views on a shooting life without lead, following its ban in Denmark in 1996 credit: fotografhuset (Pictures provided by: Brian Rasmussen, Fotografhuset) Denmark introduced a total ban on the use of lead shot for hunting and...
oh life without lead has been really good
In Denmark, plastic shotgun wads are a significant source of pollution in marine and other ecosystems, with an estimated 30 tons discarded annually. These wads, often found on beaches, contribute to the overall plastic litter problem. Studies have shown that hunting activities, particularly in coastal areas, are a major contributor to this pollution.
Conor O'Gorman
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I don't see that day to day in communication with members on myriad issues and as for lead ammunition there have not been many queries whether to me, or my colleagues and that is also the case at shows and events. I appreciate there are a few forum members with strong views on moving away from lead ammunition and whilst they are entitled to their views they are not mainstream views, albeit the sheer volume of their comments may make it appear otherwise. What is the BASC virtue signalling you find sickening?
timbrayford
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That rather misses the point. Its all very well for those repleat with funds to risk turning their guns into decorators but for the rest of us its a chance that you dare not take.Historic firearms of all sorts are being used with steel shot for hunting and target shooting in USA and Denmark. Bill has been writing about the use of steel shot in various historic firearms with no damage reported. The various scaremongering about steel shot will run its course in the lead up to 2029 and beyond.
This article is well worth a read:
Life without lead - the Danish perspective - Sporting Gun
Danish shooter and fieldsports journalist Thorkild Ellerbaek gives his views on a shooting life without lead, following its ban in Denmark in 1996 credit: fotografhuset (Pictures provided by: Brian Rasmussen, Fotografhuset) Denmark introduced a total ban on the use of lead shot for hunting and...
Nope.
Nailed it. Exactly that. Opinion. Not fact. Simmer down
Conor O'Gorman
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Let's come back to that point in 2029.
timbrayford
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I don't think so, I'm hoping that Hortonium or something similar arrives by then, I'd no more buy steel cartridges than I would I an EV
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Given here, other shooting forums, Facebook forums and just about every other person I speak to on all things shooting, I'd agree fully with @takbok and say you're out of touch. We're not just talking about a few people, we're talking hundreds and thousands of people. It's also probably worth noting he does use lead free so he's not one of these 'select few' causing issues.
Walk in to any RFD and ask them about lead free ammunition and how effective it is. I don't think there will be many that want rhat change either.
@Conor O'Gorman min 7.17
I was brought up on a hammer 20 bore and you don't load a hammer gun with the hammer back
People can get hurt and close to losing their job.
Also add poor understanding of gun safety Rory.
Conor O'Gorman
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Not sure how you went from a few people moaning about BASC on forums to "hundreds and thousands of people". That is certainly not my experience and feedback from members that goes back 23 years. That is not the experience of my colleagues either. This forum has over 30,000 members and less than a dozen people with axes to grind about BASC. That's a fact. This is what BASC is about:
Conor O'Gorman
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Fair enough, its your choice.
Across the various shooting forums, Facebook, friends and friends of through random group chats? I think you'll find the issue is far bigger than a few on here that actually voice their opinion on it. Just because you aren't aware of it, doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
Conor O'Gorman
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BASC staff and volunteers are engaged with members and the shooting community across all shooting disciplines daily and the picture you paint is simply not true. Perhaps the problem is your fixation on BASC? Worth reflecting on and perhaps time to drop the axe and get behind BASC.
No, I'm not sure if you've realised but people tend to be two faced and don't often air their concerns as most people don't like confrontation. I on the other hand, enjoy confrontation. I am certainly not "fixated" on BASC, the only reason i comment is to bite back at Heym and yourself whenever you post crap. Which unfortunately for you pair (more so Heym) is quite common.
I was behind BASC. Until they cocked up. So I cancelled. Easy as that.
You've had a well respected member of this community tell you something who's got no and to grind in this and yet you still refuse to believe it. It's borderline funny how delusional you're becoming. The answers are in front of you, the pages and pages of criticism against BASC with a number not really interested any longer in what happens. They've aired opinion loud and clear yet you still dont see it?
Come on Conor, stop kidding yourself. We get you work for BASC but its clear not everyone aligns with their views and you have to acknowledge that
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