A swift follow (or fallow) up shot

I made the most of a rare sunny, dry day on Saturday and went out for a deer. After electing to sit in a high seat for a bit, I was rewarded after half an hour by a fallow doe emerging from the treeline and making her way from left to right along the margin between the wood and the meadow.


At a range of 100m, I took what I thought was a spot-on heart/lung shot when she paused and raised her head. The only reaction I got was for the deer to pause, then turn around and start walking back the way she had come. When she turned, I was very disturbed to see gut poking out through an exit wound approximately half way along her abdomen. My head being full of horror stories about following up on gut-shot deer, for the first time ever I decided I need to shoot twice. This time the round hit and she went down immediately, so I breathed a massive sigh of relief. Both shots were taken with the deer standing broadside on to me with no hint of quartering.


When I approached a very dead deer ten minutes later, I found entrance wounds on both sides. The first photo shows my first shot, which was exactly where I'd aimed it on the right hand side of the deer. So somehow the round had hit at the point of aim, then decided to travel along the abdomen and come out half way along. The second photo shows my second shot, on the left hand side of the deer, a bit further back than I would have liked because I was taking a hurried (some may say panicked) follow-up shot.
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The gralloch revealed a very slightly nicked gut (fortunately the green was dry and fibrous and hadn't leaked into the abdominal cavity), as well as a heart with the top shot off, and some shredded lungs.


I'm convinced the heart shot was my first, but am very perturbed about the lack of reaction and the gut damage. I was using a rifle fresh from being zeroed at the range (incidentally at 100m too) with 140 grain Norma Whitetail in 6.5 Creedmoor. These are lead rounds that I have had very reliable results with before (as in it smashes deer flat), and I only have a handful of them left before I plan on embracing the future and switching to monolithic copper.


My first question would be whether I should just put it down to chance that my first round did so much undesirable damage and that the lack of initial reaction is normal. My second question is whether I was right to send a second round a few moments later, or whether I should have waited.


I am pleased that as usual I now have fridge full of delicious venison, but I think I need a bit of reassurance that it is either OK to wait a bit and just see what happens after an apparently unsuccessful shot, or whether it is better to make sure the deer goes down with a swift follow-up!
 

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Kudos to you for taking that follow up shot so quick, I had a clean miss on a Roe doe once, and Im not ashamed to say that because I was using a loaner gun I fumbled the bolt and was unable to take a follow up shot. Really made me realise how important it is using my own rifle and training to make sure I can take up quick follow up shots in case a not so clean miss ever occurs.
 
I made the most of a rare sunny, dry day on Saturday and went out for a deer. After electing to sit in a high seat for a bit, I was rewarded after half an hour by a fallow doe emerging from the treeline and making her way from left to right along the margin between the wood and the meadow.


At a range of 100m, I took what I thought was a spot-on heart/lung shot when she paused and raised her head. The only reaction I got was for the deer to pause, then turn around and start walking back the way she had come. When she turned, I was very disturbed to see gut poking out through an exit wound approximately half way along her abdomen. My head being full of horror stories about following up on gut-shot deer, for the first time ever I decided I need to shoot twice. This time the round hit and she went down immediately, so I breathed a massive sigh of relief. Both shots were taken with the deer standing broadside on to me with no hint of quartering.


When I approached a very dead deer ten minutes later, I found entrance wounds on both sides. The first photo shows my first shot, which was exactly where I'd aimed it on the left hand side of the deer. So somehow the round had hit at the point of aim, then decided to travel along the abdomen and come out half way along. The second photo shows my second shot, on the right hand side of the deer, a bit further back than I would have liked because I was taking a hurried (some may say panicked) follow-up shot.
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The gralloch revealed a very slightly nicked gut (fortunately the green was dry and fibrous and hadn't leaked into the abdominal cavity), as well as a heart with the top shot off, and some shredded lungs.


I'm convinced the heart shot was my first, but am very perturbed about the lack of reaction and the gut damage. I was using a rifle fresh from being zeroed at the range (incidentally at 100m too) with 140 grain Norma Whitetail in 6.5 Creedmoor. These are lead rounds that I have had very reliable results with before (as in it smashes deer flat), and I only have a handful of them left before I plan on embracing the future and switching to monolithic copper.


My first question would be whether I should just put it down to chance that my first round did so much undesirable damage and that the lack of initial reaction is normal. My second question is whether I was right to send a second round a few moments later, or whether I should have waited.


I am pleased that as usual I now have fridge full of delicious venison, but I think I need a bit of reassurance that it is either OK to wait a bit and just see what happens after an apparently unsuccessful shot, or whether it is better to make sure the deer goes down with a swift follow-up!
Well done, :tiphat: nothing wrong with a second shot as if they start to wriggle and the head comes up then the front legs get a hold it will turn in to a
"car crash" type of event as people are just watching in disbelief (been there) 1 more round can stop a lot of heartache.
%100 right in my book. we shoot duck a second time if they a flapping to stop them diving chip a pigeon or game bird the same.
 
Check between the hide and flesh on the exit wound. You think you get away with it, but there could be a lot of stomach contents between both. Ask me how I know.
 
Was the deer dead broadside to you? Its very easy to gut shot if not. Otherwise, I can only guess that you hit front leg bone dead on and the bullet deflected backwards. This has happened to me and Ive ended up with gut shot when it wasn't expected. Ive also had bullets strike bone and deflect away from the vitals.
 
Was the deer dead broadside to you? Its very easy to gut shot if not. Otherwise, I can only guess that you hit front leg bone dead on and the bullet deflected backwards. This has happened to me and Ive ended up with gut shot when it wasn't expected. Ive also had bullets strike bone and deflect away from the vitals.
Yep, dead broadside-on. I won't take a shot if there's a hint of quartering. The round must have deflected, which hasn't happened before with this ammo; I'm still new enough to stalking that I suspect there are many 'firsts' still to experience...
 
Yep, dead broadside-on. I won't take a shot if there's a hint of quartering. The round must have deflected, which hasn't happened before with this ammo; I'm still new enough to stalking that I suspect there are many 'firsts' still to experience...
What’s the ammo?
 
Sometimes deers do strange things some times bullets also do unpredicted things. A lungshot deer can walk (dead) for 100-150m even if most fall within 50m, its still normal. Dont make ammo decicions on one deer shot.
 
Alls well that ends well 👍.
You completed the dreaded by all scenario 100% a top job
Season before last I chest shot a hefty fallow doe, through the scope I see where the shot went in, it dropped to the shot and as I loaded the next round it jumped up cleared a water filled dyke and dropped 90 yds in a field, gralloch revealed the shot took out the top of the heart from which normally they drop within a few yards
Well done on completion of the stalk, you never know sometimes when Lady Luck isn’t looking your way 👍 top job
 
The more deer you shoot (at), the more situations like this you will experience.
Well done for the quick follow-up shot.
Very true I can and will go wrong from time to time happened to me last week , no follow up shot needed but roe follower perfect broadside spot on entry wound bullet zipped down the gut , ended up skinning in the wood salvaged back legs shoulders and loins so only really lost the rib meat
 
While unspoilt flesh is preferable a dead deer is always the desirable so the follow up is definitely the first thing to do ! Well done 👍
Bullets and im definitely no ballistic expert do some strange things after leaving the barrel , a perfect broadside is not always obtainable and this kind of scenario is far more common than a lot of stalkers will admit . Good to question but move on to the next fallow there’s plenty to go at! Every days a school day
 
I made the most of a rare sunny, dry day on Saturday and went out for a deer. After electing to sit in a high seat for a bit, I was rewarded after half an hour by a fallow doe emerging from the treeline and making her way from left to right along the margin between the wood and the meadow.


At a range of 100m, I took what I thought was a spot-on heart/lung shot when she paused and raised her head. The only reaction I got was for the deer to pause, then turn around and start walking back the way she had come. When she turned, I was very disturbed to see gut poking out through an exit wound approximately half way along her abdomen. My head being full of horror stories about following up on gut-shot deer, for the first time ever I decided I need to shoot twice. This time the round hit and she went down immediately, so I breathed a massive sigh of relief. Both shots were taken with the deer standing broadside on to me with no hint of quartering.


When I approached a very dead deer ten minutes later, I found entrance wounds on both sides. The first photo shows my first shot, which was exactly where I'd aimed it on the right hand side of the deer. So somehow the round had hit at the point of aim, then decided to travel along the abdomen and come out half way along. The second photo shows my second shot, on the left hand side of the deer, a bit further back than I would have liked because I was taking a hurried (some may say panicked) follow-up shot.
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The gralloch revealed a very slightly nicked gut (fortunately the green was dry and fibrous and hadn't leaked into the abdominal cavity), as well as a heart with the top shot off, and some shredded lungs.


I'm convinced the heart shot was my first, but am very perturbed about the lack of reaction and the gut damage. I was using a rifle fresh from being zeroed at the range (incidentally at 100m too) with 140 grain Norma Whitetail in 6.5 Creedmoor. These are lead rounds that I have had very reliable results with before (as in it smashes deer flat), and I only have a handful of them left before I plan on embracing the future and switching to monolithic copper.


My first question would be whether I should just put it down to chance that my first round did so much undesirable damage and that the lack of initial reaction is normal. My second question is whether I was right to send a second round a few moments later, or whether I should have waited.


I am pleased that as usual I now have fridge full of delicious venison, but I think I need a bit of reassurance that it is either OK to wait a bit and just see what happens after an apparently unsuccessful shot, or whether it is better to make sure the deer goes down with a swift follow-up!
Am I missing the entry wound on the second pic?
Is it the blob on the right of the photo. That looked more like a leaf or something but I can't see anything else

If that is the entry I'd be very happy with that for a rushed shot
And if it beds in the habit of a quick reload every time that's got to be a good thing
 
Am I missing the entry wound on the second pic?
Is it the blob on the right of the photo. That looked more like a leaf or something but I can't see anything else

If that is the entry I'd be very happy with that for a rushed shot
And if it beds in the habit of a quick reload every time that's got to be a good thing
Yes, it's the blob on the far right, just on the white bit of the coat. I didn't take better photos as I was rushing to get going with the gralloch, thinking that I would be dealing with lots of nasty green stuff sloshing around that needed to be outside rather than in. Fortunately this proved not to be the case!

I think I was lucky that I had brought my heavier rifle for this one, as there is very little felt recoil, so I was able to re-aquire the target area pretty quickly after the first shot.
 
Good write up and well sorted issue. I shot a large fallow buck at 120 yards and it hardly flinched but turned around and wandered back towards the wood, obscured by trees - but I could see a fountain of blood as it walked. No chance of a follow up shot between trees so I was about to follow it from my Highseat on foot when it fell over. Gralloch showed perfect heart lung shot. My preferred shot is hilar - straight down if you get it right.
 
Always put in a follow up shot so well done for doing so. The majority of what I stalk are fallow. They take some knocking over and have an incredible survival instinct. Had all sorts of normal and odd reactions to chest shots. Certainly they run further and expire longer with copper. As always shot placement is key.
 
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