Alpex V2
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chevy1562004
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They are releasing something this week I believe
chevy1562004
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I’ve had Nocpix nite on order since October but if Hik pull something out of the bag at the end of the week then that may change. Frankly I’m getting a bit sick on waiting on the Nocpix nite
British Shooting Show launch.......
How Nocpix have handled it is absolutely disgusting
chevy1562004
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It definitely very frustrating that’s for sure @eds81 the hype has well and truly died off for myself with regards to the Nocpix nite.
Me too
It feels like they've had the run of things with the Alpex 4k and the Alpex 4K Lite, then DNT have released their new Zulus 4K and basically HIK have had a product waiting in the wings to make it irrelevant as soon as they released it.
I think at this point it's basically a resolution race, as we go higher and higher so we can maintain quality at higher zoom levels.
I think at this point it's basically a resolution race, as we go higher and higher so we can maintain quality at higher zoom levels.
chevy1562004
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I agree, very clever on Hikmicro’s part and very well played
Kyle_hill98
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100% happens every time, people saying no are just kidding them selfs
Depends on how clever they’ve been with stock levels.
Pre the show the major retailers all had pretty low stock levels. If they & HIK have managed those levels deliberately & what they have now is ‘run out’ stock then don’t expect to see lots of the old model being sold off cheap.
Units held in stock are dead money - ie they’ve been purchased by the retailer using funds that are now tied up until they’ve been sold.
If retailers run out of the old model the chances are they’ll be pushing the new one & taking deposits on them which means they have cash at hand.
Once the new units become stock items you may see the old ones being sold off at discount just to clear them but expect numbers to be limited.
We are selling the Alpex 4K models daily, there has been no drop in sales. This model is still the best performing scope out there, at this current moment, in terms of night vision performance, field of view and long range image detail retention. Only the Pixfra Volans and Pulsar C50 have lenses that can match the light gathering ability of this unit..
Not doubting the scope - I have one I bought from you
Just saying that from a business perspective a savvy manufacturer would only have sufficient stock of the old to fill the gap between product launch & delivery to retailer of the new one. Unless of course they intend to keep the 4K model running alongside the new one?
I think everyone assumes that this is a replacement rather than a third model in the line. Which is what I thought when it was first announced. When I questioned the guys from Elite about light gathering ability without IR compared to the 4K at the shooting show, the response was slightly oblique that they weren’t stopping sales of the 4K. At the time I thought it was just a sales thing to ensure they sold whatever stockpile of 4K’s they still had, but looking at the specs of the new Pro maybe it isn’t designed to replace. Optically it in theory if both devices had the same software it can’t compete in low light without IR and maybe even with clever software it might struggle. There is a limit on what software can do after all. This is something that the marketing videos released so far seem to support.
Everyone assumes that HIK will be releasing a single scope that will do everything whereas they might just be releasing another device to supplement existing. Smaller brands might only release one of each device, but HIK already has a selection of almost complete devices on the market. For example the Falcon and Condor devices pretty much mirror each other and in theory complete. They could have just one of the other as their thermal monocular offering, but they have two. HIK is so large as a company they can just simply employ a strategy of market saturation giving the buyer so much choice it swamps the competition.
Maybe the 4K is a bit of a sales headache for HIK in that digital requires advancement to drive sales of the next great device and the 4K is so good that HIK are now supplementing it instead. The one downside of the 4K is the weight so maybe the Pro is just the centrefire lightweight offering…..
Everyone assumes that HIK will be releasing a single scope that will do everything whereas they might just be releasing another device to supplement existing. Smaller brands might only release one of each device, but HIK already has a selection of almost complete devices on the market. For example the Falcon and Condor devices pretty much mirror each other and in theory complete. They could have just one of the other as their thermal monocular offering, but they have two. HIK is so large as a company they can just simply employ a strategy of market saturation giving the buyer so much choice it swamps the competition.
Maybe the 4K is a bit of a sales headache for HIK in that digital requires advancement to drive sales of the next great device and the 4K is so good that HIK are now supplementing it instead. The one downside of the 4K is the weight so maybe the Pro is just the centrefire lightweight offering…..
Not sure where it is pitched to be honest. Current 4k has a 50mm f1.2 lens and the new Pro has a 50mm f1.8. I'm assuming f stops work the same for digital scopes as they do for cameras, so f1.8 will gather approx half as much light as f1.2.
I know that's not the full picture and the new pro has 4512x2512 sensor versus the 4k 3840x2169 so I have no idea how that works with regards to low light performance! Maybe offsets the smaller aperture?
So my guess is, in real world terms, marginally less low-light performance but significantly better image quality in ok to good light, especially at higher magnification. Pure guess though as I'm not techie at all!
Shaun Goss
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What’s the verdict now that iam sure a lot have looked at it at the show?
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