Section 1 shotguns banned soon ??

stuaff · Mar 24, 2026

RCS Deer Management said:
Not true at all. Mine is conditioned for vermin.

This baffles me ,every time ive renewed my FAC for the last ten years ive tried to get my section 1's for vermin but would only let me use them for practical target shooting . Is there somthing specific you requested it for or just vermin control and what part of the uk are you from ? If you dont mind me asking .
Police Scotland is the force i deal with and they have always said no. I can use the two of them on ranges no problem just not for vermin control.

RCS Deer Management said:
Not true at all. Mine is conditioned for vermin.

Rhodesianjess · Mar 24, 2026

Two professional keeper friends of mine have 9 shot 12 bores conditioned for vermin control.
Both in Northamptonshire.

stuaff · Mar 24, 2026

Rhodesianjess said:
Two professional keeper friends of mine have 9 shot 12 bores conditioned for vermin control.
Both in Northamptonshire.

Ive got a ten shot semi auto and an 8 shot pump action , i do all the vermin control on two different farms and an estate yet still cant get them . I'm going to try again

mudman · Mar 24, 2026

I struggle to think of any occasion when an 8 shot or more magazine is needed for vermin control

It may be wanted for vermin control, but it is not needed for vermin control.

rocketdogbert · Mar 24, 2026

mudman said:
I struggle to think of any occasion when an 8 shot or more magazine is needed for vermin control

It may be wanted for vermin control, but it is not needed for vermin control.

Friend of mine using his for pigeon control, needs it for the large flocks they get on his permissions, Essex

Greenmist · Mar 24, 2026

stuaff said:
Correct you can only use them for target shooting.

Mines for vermin

RCS Deer Management · Mar 24, 2026

mudman said:
I struggle to think of any occasion when an 8 shot or more magazine is needed for vermin control

It may be wanted for vermin control, but it is not needed for vermin control.

You don’t need anything more than a .22lr for fox control, but that doesn’t mean that you wouldn’t be more effective with a decent centerfire.

Loads of time decoying crows/jack doors I will fire more than 3 shots at a bunch. With 3 shots you might average 2 out of a bunch, I will often fire 5/6 shots and kill 4 or 5. Might result in a bag of 400 opposed to a bag of 300. Makes a big difference over multiple days

stuaff · Mar 24, 2026

mudman said:
I struggle to think of any occasion when an 8 shot or more magazine is needed for vermin control

It may be wanted for vermin control, but it is not needed for vermin control.

I'd only use the pump action to be honest , the semi auto is in an AR 15 style ,Definetly wouldnt go down well if somone in the public seen me walking about with it.

stuaff · Mar 24, 2026

RCS Deer Management said:
22 You don’t need anything more than a .22lr for fox control, but that doesn’t mean that you wouldn’t be more effective with a decent centerfire.

Loads of time decoying crows/jack doors I will fire more than 3 shots at a bunch. With 3 shots you might average 2 out of a bunch, I will often fire 5/6 shots and kill 4 or 5. Might result in a bag of 400 opposed to a bag of 300. Makes a big difference over multiple days

DIsagree with the .22lr fox bit especially when shooting at distance .243 or
.223 for me all day . .22l good for short distances. 100 m plus nope

VSS · Mar 24, 2026

stuaff said:
DIsagree with the .22lr fox bit especially when shooting at distance .243 or
.223 for me all day . .22l good for short distances. 100 m plus nope

You're not disagreeing with @RCS Deer Management at all. You're basically saying the same thing.

stuaff · Mar 24, 2026

VSS said:
You're not disagreeing with @RCS Deer Management at all. You're basically saying the same thing.

MY bad

25 Sharps · Mar 24, 2026

mudman said:
I struggle to think of any occasion when an 8 shot or more magazine is needed for vermin control

It may be wanted for vermin control, but it is not needed for vermin control.

Need doesn’t come into it, we are required to show good reason, not want or need.

mudman · Mar 24, 2026

25 Sharps said:
Need doesn’t come into it, we are required to show good reason, not want or need.

Well there is no good reason unless you count as a status symbol for impressionable young under keepers.

enfieldspares · Mar 24, 2026

Greenmist said:
Why would the police listen to a charity with no political clout

They might be interested in some discounts on cases of wine?

25 Sharps · Mar 24, 2026

mudman said:
Well there is no good reason unless you count as a status symbol for impressionable young under keepers.

Boll*cks.

Not unusual to get 3 pigeons for 5 shots, jackdaws in farmyards similar. If you have large numbers coming in to shoot it is a useful tool. Also very useful if lamping heavy rabbit numbers from the back of a vehicle.

Nickb · Mar 24, 2026

RCS Deer Management said:
You don’t need anything more than a .22lr for fox control,

Funniest thing I've ever read on here

Tim.243 · Mar 24, 2026

mudman said:
Well there is no good reason unless you count as a status symbol for impressionable young under keepers.

Or running around like........
:coat:

enfieldspares · Mar 24, 2026

Tim.243 said:
Or running around like........

I think we need Barbara to help us out?

mudman · Mar 24, 2026

25 Sharps said:
Boll*cks.

Not unusual to get 3 pigeons for 5 shots, jackdaws in farmyards similar. If you have large numbers coming in to shoot it is a useful tool. Also very useful if lamping heavy rabbit numbers from the back of a vehicle.

I should have mentioned 5 shots, put kept previous post to one line. Yes five shots I can see can be useful

But I have never ever encountered a situation where I needed or anyone else would need a magazine of 8 or 10 capacity. Nothing likes getting shot at, most are well gone after a two or three shots, even a mob of 200 daft feral pigeons swirling around a stock shed will be out of range after three, four or five shots.

Very Large mag capacity is not needed for anything. It’s usually a ****ing contest between young ‘professionals’ as to whose gun has the bigger mag capacity. Naivety must keep Benelli in business

RCS Deer Management · Mar 24, 2026

Nickb said:
Funniest thing I've ever read on here

Not read my comment properly?

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