Lead - EU Reach Meeting/Proposal
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Worry about lead? Not fckg likely! Just think of the number of times wheat is sprayed with toxic chemicals and wonder why the incidence of cancer is so great. Nobody has yet convinced me that these chemicals don't enter the cereal grain when the plant absorbs them.
palmer_mike
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Thanks for agreeing with my point that we could adopt a similar system of providing health advice when buying game meat that may be shot with lead and thereby do away with the need for an unnecessary lead banNHS Guidelines on Fish including guidelines on eating tuna
Fish and shellfish
Find out why most of us should eat more fish, including oily fish for omega-3. Learn how to eat fish and shellfish safely, including information on fish and shellfish allergies.www.nhs.uk
Note advice on eating tuna whilst pregnant because of risks of Mercury.
Nail on head.
Far more to worry about with what is in/on food than a little trace of lead.
palmer_mike
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main sources of lead in agricultural crops:
- Legacy Contamination: Historical use of leaded gasoline (which settled into roadside soils), lead-based paint, and past industrial emissions.
- Historical Pesticides: Previous use of lead arsenate pesticides in orchards and vineyards remains a significant source of lead in soil.
- Mining and Smelting: Areas near mines or smelters have high lead deposits, which often exceed safety limits.
- Agricultural Inputs: Certain phosphate fertilizers, animal manures, and biosolids (sewage sludge) can introduce lead, though modern regulations have reduced this in many areas.
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NoIDeer
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Yes FSA offer guidance. I am pro lead but accept there is a potential risk to pregnant women and children.
Smellydog
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Thank you.
I note the below comment;
To minimise your risk of lead intake, if you frequently eat lead-shot game meat, particularly small game, you should cut down your consumption.
They do not advise abstinence.
Like they don't with fish or tobacco products.
Have I got that correct?
I also accept that but I still wonder how I have survived into my eighties.
I chewed the paint off my cot as alittle one..
We ate pork which had been salted in a lead trough. We also put saltpetre around the bones in ham joints.
The house was decorated in lead paint.
I've eaten lead shot game and venison forever.
I may also have lead particles in my body from shot wounds.
But hey lead will kill you. Tobacco might yet but no quicker than crop sprays.
NoIDeer
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That's how I read it.
Thing is .... I really like copper bullets now in 6mm upwards
palmer_mike
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That’s fine, it’s about freedom to choose though
I get that , and its wrong for all the folks who got rid of guns that where only suited for lead ( through twist rates etc etc) . I am now years on and a big fan of copper 243 up
Heym SR20
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What I find truly amusing about this thread is that all those wanting the same conditions as the EU, where pretty much all the same ones who were advocating for BREXIT, that we leave the EU and allow the British Government that has been elected by a large majority of the British electorate to make up its own mind about legislation and introduce legislation and regulation that is different to that of the EU.
Defra, which is part of the British Government has widely consulted with a wide host of interested parties and introduced a ban on lead in ammunition as that, in the minds of the elected government, is in the best interests of the British people and the British environment.
You might disagree, but that’s democracy.
Defra, which is part of the British Government has widely consulted with a wide host of interested parties and introduced a ban on lead in ammunition as that, in the minds of the elected government, is in the best interests of the British people and the British environment.
You might disagree, but that’s democracy.
But DEFRA didn't find any evidence of lead shot game causing issues did they? Because I don't recall anyone in the UK being able to provide that?
So they used papers from here, there and everywhere to argue a moot point over here. Shooters once again got shafted. Because we always do.
You may not like it, sound, you do you but stop voluntarily putting nails in the shooters coffin because that's all you're doing
palmer_mike
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Prove it
Woodenbeam
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Hey Heym - stay on topic, i didn’t mention lead shot - I’m only referring to centrefire.
Too big a subject to roll into one, and now I note you dare mention Brexit.
If your beloved EU are now looking to ignore your toxic comments then surely you should be getting back under that stone & taking it on the chin.
I’m questioning the ivory towers for removing a freedom to do as I wish while openly adopting others rights to supply a supposed marketplace - the utopia of a lead free premium paying superstore. Yeah right’o………….
As for the £100/deer you quote - it’s this type of ballacks that has got this country into the state it is. Paying all this money to protect the re-wilding bonkers that we’ve adopted - most normal thinking people think the loonies have taken over the asylum.
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