HonestJohn
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I’d just not bother with the chainsaw on that ground unless the landowner needs you to, in which case, probably easier to hire in outside work
You could always go manual with some time and maybe with a mate?
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out of curiosity I contacted I think it was aborisk couple of weeks ago... straight away they said that their product was not aimed at an individual helping on shoots etc.
I am covered at work by their own public liability (woodland management and felling is part of my job on an airfield) but that companies policy would be about 650per year without going fully into it. Also the insurance company would expect you top have Lantra or similar tickets for any chainsaw work you do... crosscut/small tree/ med tree/ windfall etc. Only if on your own property do you not need them.
I am covered at work by their own public liability (woodland management and felling is part of my job on an airfield) but that companies policy would be about 650per year without going fully into it. Also the insurance company would expect you top have Lantra or similar tickets for any chainsaw work you do... crosscut/small tree/ med tree/ windfall etc. Only if on your own property do you not need them.
I posed the same question on here a while back.
Most of the insurance companies that were suggested would not consider me, as the chainsaw use was for recreational purposes and not business i.e. cutting brash and detached limbs. My SACS insurance wouldn't cover it, however when I spoke to the Insurance underwriter for Fieldsports Channel Insurance, they said it would be covered under "general gamekeeping duties"
countrryboy
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I don't know how many high seats u have.
But as scouts we used to get sent by a local forester/famous stalker to brash his deer glades and paths to doe boxes all just with long handled brashing saws.
I can't even remember the saws being very sharp.
And he had quite a few nice large deer glades and heaps of doe boxes/inspection racks.
Also on a shoot I picked up on for years.
1 drive was paticularly bad for picking travelling and where the majority of birds would land.
Just restock SS
Every shoot day I'd sit the hounds up and would just get stuck in with my silky or secateurs.
Couldn't see much anyway, was just a right raking hoovering type drive.
But u weren't long in creating a few tracks so u knew u had hoovered up everything.
Might be worth treating yourself to a silky or even lopers.
But as scouts we used to get sent by a local forester/famous stalker to brash his deer glades and paths to doe boxes all just with long handled brashing saws.
I can't even remember the saws being very sharp.
And he had quite a few nice large deer glades and heaps of doe boxes/inspection racks.
Also on a shoot I picked up on for years.
1 drive was paticularly bad for picking travelling and where the majority of birds would land.
Just restock SS
Every shoot day I'd sit the hounds up and would just get stuck in with my silky or secateurs.
Couldn't see much anyway, was just a right raking hoovering type drive.
But u weren't long in creating a few tracks so u knew u had hoovered up everything.
Might be worth treating yourself to a silky or even lopers.
NFU will do it but not cheap, you can get online quotes for handyman or gardening insurers quite reasonably, make sure you describe the type of work you'll be doing which will affect the premium. Firstly I'd ask the landowner what type of insurance is required and why? I help with a syndicate shoot, the farmer insists (quite rightly) that anyone using a chainsaw has done a course and is qualified, but doesn't mention insurance
Stalker-of-the-deer
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Have you got the relevant qualifications to use a chainsaw though? Thats the barrier to insurance.
Could be safe and competent but an insurer isnt going to sign off on it without some proof considering how dangerous a chainsaw is.
who through?
countrryboy
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Another option for OP
Have u asked landowner why he wants insurance?
I imagine he's after Public Liability Insurance.
If u are solely brashing trees for paths, I can't see how u can possibly hurt anyone other than yourself ( which insurance would not cover anyway).
The only possible thing and its a long shot, I could think of is a snapped chain but even then chain catcher on saw usually catches it.
I've never heard of chain shot with chain saws, harvesters yes.
Yes different if ur felling stuff but not brashing
Just seems absolutely pointless when its almost physically impossible to hurt anyone or damage anything.
I imagine it will be a box ticking/arse covering excerise by either his insurance company or land agents.
Have u asked landowner why he wants insurance?
I imagine he's after Public Liability Insurance.
If u are solely brashing trees for paths, I can't see how u can possibly hurt anyone other than yourself ( which insurance would not cover anyway).
The only possible thing and its a long shot, I could think of is a snapped chain but even then chain catcher on saw usually catches it.
I've never heard of chain shot with chain saws, harvesters yes.
Yes different if ur felling stuff but not brashing
Just seems absolutely pointless when its almost physically impossible to hurt anyone or damage anything.
I imagine it will be a box ticking/arse covering excerise by either his insurance company or land agents.
If your doing this for free then tell him to get the insurance sorted for you or get the professionals in. If the pros are too expensive then tuff sort out the insurance for you.
He can't have his cake and eat it.
He can't have his cake and eat it.
HonestJohn
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Put a couple of coo’s in there for a week?
tusker
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Simply Business. £132.75
Having done my fair share of trees with an axe, I'd deal with the costs of insurance and use a chain sawYou could always go manual with some time and maybe with a mate?
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The landowner has to have public & product liability insurance, whatever. That would cover anyone doing voluntary work on the farm in case of accident etc.
But it wouldn't cover any damage caused by the chainsaw operator to the landowner's property.
That may be what he's driving at in this instance.
But it wouldn't cover any damage caused by the chainsaw operator to the landowner's property.
That may be what he's driving at in this instance.
It’s like all insurance you have to have it you pay your premiums then when you want to claim insurance companies find any way not to pay out.
And, when they do eventually pay out, they then put your premiums up to claw back everything they paid out
Heym SR20
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Chainsaws cause an awful lot of accidents, many are life changing in terms of their effect. In todays world landowners, land managers, farmers etc are potentially liable for any accidents that are caused on land under their ownership and / or management.
At a very minimum insurance does provide a level of protection in the case of an accident. It’s why most land owners now insist on liability insurance for all shooting activities.
Coming back to chainsaw, they are cheap, you can them on the discount aisle in your local supermarket and you can go and use them with no training. Trees are heavy, and if fallen can store a huge amount of energy. Think of the energy in a bow a few square centimetres in cross section. Multiply that up by a full sized fallen tree, and if you don’t know what you are doing and that energy is released suddenly you have a lot energy flying about. This is particularly the case with Ash trees suffering ash die back.
Its why many land owners / farmers etc are pretty dubious about chainsaws being used by the untrained, unqualified and inexperienced.
Indeed these days vast majority of forestry operations use harvesters where the operator is well protected.
At a very minimum insurance does provide a level of protection in the case of an accident. It’s why most land owners now insist on liability insurance for all shooting activities.
Coming back to chainsaw, they are cheap, you can them on the discount aisle in your local supermarket and you can go and use them with no training. Trees are heavy, and if fallen can store a huge amount of energy. Think of the energy in a bow a few square centimetres in cross section. Multiply that up by a full sized fallen tree, and if you don’t know what you are doing and that energy is released suddenly you have a lot energy flying about. This is particularly the case with Ash trees suffering ash die back.
Its why many land owners / farmers etc are pretty dubious about chainsaws being used by the untrained, unqualified and inexperienced.
Indeed these days vast majority of forestry operations use harvesters where the operator is well protected.
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