6.5 prc overkill ?

Eh, less of the Creemdoor!
It’s just funny - @Norfolk Deer Search is extremely critical of the Creedmoor, and yet ballistically they’re identical.

I don’t give two figs what anyone uses. It’s like arguing over flavours of ice cream. So find it more than a little absurd when people have strongly held opinions about a particular cartridge. Creedmoor hating is like teenagers hating a particular band just because the cool kids at school don’t like it.
 
It’s just funny - @Norfolk Deer Search is extremely critical of the Creedmoor, and yet ballistically they’re identical.

I don’t give two figs what anyone uses. It’s like arguing over flavours of ice cream. So find it more than a little absurd when people have strongly held opinions about a particular cartridge. Creedmoor hating is like teenagers hating a particular band just because the cool kids at school don’t like it.
Salted caramel for please!!
 
It’s just funny - @Norfolk Deer Search is extremely critical of the Creedmoor, and yet ballistically they’re identical.

I don’t give two figs what anyone uses. It’s like arguing over flavours of ice cream. So find it more than a little absurd when people have strongly held opinions about a particular cartridge. Creedmoor hating is like teenagers hating a particular band just because the cool kids at school don’t like it.
You are quite correct!

It’s just another calibre designed to save the US gun market, and in my personal opinion something that is completely pointless
 
6.5prc as said on here for distance.
6.5x55, 6.5-06 6.5x284 are well suited and particularly the Swede.which is my favourite out of the 3 .....
There’s nothing discernible between the 6.5 284 and the PRC other than factory rifle /ammunition availability.

Saying that when I do Rebarrel the 6.5 284 it will be going prc , maybe even 7mm
 
If I get a 6.5 prc I’ll be reloading so won’t be looking for factory ammunition, hopefully will be looking at a custom build from brock and Norris and go 26” barrel to get max performance from it, any thoughts on an action?? If anyone has had a custom one done..
 
If I get a 6.5 prc I’ll be reloading so won’t be looking for factory ammunition, hopefully will be looking at a custom build from brock and Norris and go 26” barrel to get max performance from it, any thoughts on an action?? If anyone has had a custom one done..
Hand loading is 100% the way to go with the prc , the factory ammo offerings are very down loaded , example ... hornaday varmint express 143 grn ELDX is quoted 2960 fps
Real world 2850 fps , hornaday have been " short changing " there customers for quite a while now.

In my prc hand loading the same bullet 143 ELDX mine will shoot 3100 fps using RL-26 without issues .
 
It’s just funny - @Norfolk Deer Search is extremely critical of the Creedmoor, and yet ballistically they’re identical.

I don’t give two figs what anyone uses. It’s like arguing over flavours of ice cream. So find it more than a little absurd when people have strongly held opinions about a particular cartridge. Creedmoor hating is like teenagers hating a particular band just because the cool kids at school don’t like it.
Not a Creedmoor but the op wanted 6.5 PRC info.
At sensible deer stalking ranges pretty well identical ballistically. Push the range out and the 6.5 PRC has the edge. For sh1ts and giggles we occasionally have a 1 shot challenge. He's got a Bergara Wilderness 24" barrel. I've got a Tikka T3 Lt weight 20" barrel (in a PES stock)
Photo shows impact at 1000yds. Keepers finger pointing at his Bergara 6.5PRC, my Tikka 6.5x55 is at 3 o'clock. Both using Yew Tree 114gr TLR bullets.
My muzzle MV was 2840fps scope at +35.5MoA. His MV 3190fps and scope +25MoA. The terminal effect went to the 6.5 PRC with a visible deeper crater than my 6.5 Swede.
We are still very good friends :D.
 

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It's pretty much the same as a 6.5x284 ballistically, isn't it? No complaints with the latter from me and I rarely take shots over 200yds. That said, pretty much all of my deer are reds (occasional fallow). I see no noticeable difference in damage between 308 and 6.5x284 though.

As for "always DRT", they can run the same as any other calibre / cartridge and again, no noticeable difference to a 308; sometimes they drop on the spot, sometimes they run a bit. Maybe the PRC has some magical properties the '284 doesn't though...
I was thinking the same. Doesn’t matter what you hit ‘em with - some are DRT some not.

Not appreciable difference between 6.5x284 either. Only advantage being you can get PRC brass where as last time I heard Lapua have stopped producing 6.5x284 so that might influence which way you go.
 
I was thinking the same. Doesn’t matter what you hit ‘em with - some are DRT some not.

Not appreciable difference between 6.5x284 either. Only advantage being you can get PRC brass where as last time I heard Lapua have stopped producing 6.5x284 so that might influence which way you go.
Just this afternoon I found a box of Lapua PRC brass under my bed. Unopened.

It’s like finding treasure!!
 
In a Sako l61r of course
Maybe.

I once had a .270 Sako l61r. It was… ok. A touch agricultural, and even after getting a fair amount of work done, never all that accurate.

I also had a .270 Heym SR20. That was very nice indeed, but for the stock, which was too much of a Monte Carlo style, and uncomfortable to shoot prone.

I would like to try a Schulz and Larson one day!
 
6.5 PRC overkill. I will paraphrase Craig Boddington who wrote a whole chapter on the .30 Calibre cartridges in his book Safari Rifles written in the 1990’s.

In most calibres you have a range of cartridges. They are all good for the same sort of sized game, but how easy it is to hit the target, in reality the point blank range (mpbr) or the range at which you can hit the kill zone with a centre of kill zone hold is very much dependent on muzzle velocity.

So using the .30 cal as the example

.30-30 - typically about 2,400 ish fps and good for about 150yds mpbr

.308 win - 2700 ish fps and 200 ish yds mpbr

30-06 - 3,000 ish fps and 220 yd mpbr

300 win mag - 3,200 and 250 yd ish mpbr.

And impact energies for all are about the same at pbr

In other words the magnum or big cased load does just what the little one does but 100 and a bit yds further out.

He was writing in the days before rangefinders were the norm, but I think it still holds true.

Theoretically all of the above holds true, until you add in the human wobble factor, and the ability, or really the inability to read wind.

Coming back to the 6.5s, the little Grendel works really well at the shorter ranges, Creedmoor or Swede in the mid ranges, there isn’t really an 06 sized 6.5, and then the 6.5prc or 264 win mag out on the open hill / longer ranges.

Is the 6.5 PRC needed on the close range woodland / bush type hunting. No, in the same way that 30-30 works just fine. But if you are open hill / mountain hunting and a 200 yard shot is very much the minimum that you will be taking animals then 6.5 prc etc are the right tools.

As you get to bigger animals you need bigger, heavier and longer projectiles to get the penetration needed to reach the vitals, not a higher velocity.

As to overkill, well plenty of elephants have fallen to 6.5x54, 7x57, 303, 308, 30-06 etc, using similar on a CWD probably is. I suspect a 22 lr or 22 Hornet would work just fine.
 
Maybe.

I once had a .270 Sako l61r. It was… ok. A touch agricultural, and even after getting a fair amount of work done, never all that accurate.

I also had a .270 Heym SR20. That was very nice indeed, but for the stock, which was too much of a Monte Carlo style, and uncomfortable to shoot prone.

I would like to try a Schulz and Larson one day!
You can try my Schultz, once you feel the trigger set as perfect as they can be, you’ll
 

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Plenty big enough for that close range.If I was shooting sub 200 yards all the time guaranteed I would be on a .308 to be fair, relatively low recoil with good ammo choices ! (Not my favourite calibre by any means and I don’t have one anymore) but it’s a hell of a round for throwing a brick at a glass window when trajectories are not involved. Or if you want to get in touch with your feminine side then a 6.5 creedmoor.
 
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