Thinking of ditching my 17HMR

I chucked my 17 after a few weeks or so. I was a reasonably quick adopter . got a .22hornet and it is still my most used rifle must be getting on 20 years or so . Hand loading makes the ammo cheap and it works great on Rabbits ( I only head shoot rabbits , foxes , crows ) with it 40 or 45 grain PPU
 
WMR has to be the logical replacement but I’ve also always fancied a .22 hornet which I think would be quite comparable performance wise
 
WMR has to be the logical replacement but I’ve also always fancied a .22 hornet which I think would be quite comparable performance wise
Oh the .22 Hornet will be cheaper if you reload ( its an easy one to make ) and cheap if you reload it , it gets crazy expensive buying factory though ! You dont need a big press . 200 yards or more capable in the right hands have done much further but everything has to be ideal including the nut behind the butt !
 
the nut behind the butt can’t need to be better than with a HMR.

I regret buying a HMR over a hornet other than the reloading being key to affordability when I was shooting a lot of rabbits and hares in tree plantings
 
if you are losing confidence in the hmr but want to keep 17cal and are happy to reload then look at the .17 hornet, it’s a hmr on steroids and cheap to shoot using the kranks 17gr bullets at £27 per 500 yes per 500 so far cheaper than the .22 hornet for rabbits and will sort a fox out at sensible distance. However if it a frequent fox rifle then the .22 would be a better choice.

I moved away from the hmr to 17hornet for rabbits several years ago have never regretted it for one minute.
 
Hmmmm.
The mighty .17hmr is a filthy round - before doing anything else give the barrel a good cleaning particularly the chamber/neck area - the source of most case extraction issues. Only last month my wee .22 was failing to extract - a proper cleaning which was overdue (lazy FB’s too many uses of a pull-through) solved the problem, period.
🦊🦊
 
the nut behind the butt can’t need to be better than with a HMR.

I regret buying a HMR over a hornet other than the reloading being key to affordability when I was shooting a lot of rabbits and hares in tree plantings
The Hornet takes around 10 grains of powder for a max load and 1lb of Hogden LilGun cost me £52 last time i bought . That is a whole load of shooting over a year even for the keenest shooter. The Brass can last upwards of ten firings I cannot remember having more than a scant few cracked necks . Loading is best done with a hand die , you don't have to buy a press and all the kit ( indeed in about 20 years I just don't think i ever have used one of my big loading presses , its just going to make things harder ) I use an L.E Wilson benchrest bushing hand die. I generally use PPU cup and core bullets because they work just as good as any fancy stuff.
I have shot out to 300 yards ( a few times a good bit more ) but mostly i call 200 max as wind is a tough one to call for what is a very basic 35, 40 or 45 low bc bullet types.
The .22 Hornet is absolutely a good foxing tool ideal for denning fox the report with a CF moderator the cubs seem to ignore the rifle report after 30 mins or so ( mum and dad is another matter though ) Its absolutely the tool i use first for rabbits on open ground but remember before the old fuddydudies decided we had to use 243 win upwards on English Roe .
 
I occasionally loaded hornet with all manner of powders.
Bluedot would easily give 22 wmr velocity and to slow a powder like blc2, h322 or similar if though wasteful and dirty. H4350/H414 would give 22lr velocity but dirty.
 
After the problems a few years back with split necks and misfires leading to a blow out of the magazine. The additional noise even through a mod, I sold out and bought a FX M3 FAC. The .22 at 950fps fitted with the v2 Zulus is deadly silent and head shots on rabbits out to 120 yards on calm nights. Cheap ammo. I get around 120 shots per air refill. Worth a thought.
 
Last night they a bit messy but this is pest control
Just bought 200 sellier & bellot bang on target with my hornady reloads
The ground am on open Moore plus heather good grouse ……
Love the 17 hornet 🐝
 

Attachments

  • IMG_4432.webp
    IMG_4432.webp
    457.1 KB · Views: 38
  • IMG_4429.webp
    IMG_4429.webp
    308.7 KB · Views: 38
Always been a big fan of the 17hmr but recently bought a 22lr and put an alpex lite lrf on top. Took it out rabbiting the other night for the first time and was comfortably taking rabbits at 90 yards without scaring off the whole field. I'm now more inclined to take the 22lr out rather than the 17hmr
 
The Hornet takes around 10 grains of powder for a max load and 1lb of Hogden LilGun cost me £52 last time i bought . That is a whole load of shooting over a year even for the keenest shooter. The Brass can last upwards of ten firings I cannot remember having more than a scant few cracked necks . Loading is best done with a hand die , you don't have to buy a press and all the kit ( indeed in about 20 years I just don't think i ever have used one of my big loading presses , its just going to make things harder ) I use an L.E Wilson benchrest bushing hand die. I generally use PPU cup and core bullets because they work just as good as any fancy stuff.
I have shot out to 300 yards ( a few times a good bit more ) but mostly i call 200 max as wind is a tough one to call for what is a very basic 35, 40 or 45 low bc bullet types.
The .22 Hornet is absolutely a good foxing tool ideal for denning fox the report with a CF moderator the cubs seem to ignore the rifle report after 30 mins or so ( mum and dad is another matter though ) Its absolutely the tool i use first for rabbits on open ground but remember before the old fuddydudies decided we had to use 243 win upwards on English Roe .
I was more meaning that as the range stretches I’ve not found the HMR to be some sort of magic round so it wouldn’t be better than a hornet.

Get what you mean with the cost of reloading, I’m just not sure I want to load up high volumes
 
I reload batches of say a hundred 17 hornet at a time! Sometimes out of boredom or necessity which ever comes first 🤷‍♂️
Just got 200 sellier & bellot rounds really good quality
Once fired s&b case weight 60.8 grains consist
Once fired hornady 53.4-55.4 grains
Primers out s&b 57.8 grains
Hornady 50.6 grains
Quality casings on s&b
 
I was more meaning that as the range stretches I’ve not found the HMR to be some sort of magic round so it wouldn’t be better than a hornet.

Get what you mean with the cost of reloading, I’m just not sure I want to load up high volumes
Yep i have been shooting high numbers of .22 Hornet for about twenty years or more . Its very cheap to load Hogden little gun . with PPU cases take about ten grains , they have less cappacity . Its nothing at all comparable to to to HMR at all I actually traded the thing in very fast indeed it was accurate enough but not nearly the range as the 22 Hornet . A person a reasonable standard can shoot twice as far and its a very good fox gun inside 300 with a proper terminal effect .
Its very ,very easy to hand load without a a big investment Using bench dies ( NO big press required ) . Happy to talk you through how . I don't even weigh the powder haven't done on Hornet in years .
Spend a bit on a good moderator if you Den foxes . its worth it ! Happy to demonstrate The CZ has recently been stopped and they are the best ! sad they stopped making them but they can still be found .
 
Back
Top