New Zealand for Bull Tahr and Chamois, Feb 2017, Solo

Though I've been stalking (or maybe I should say 'hunting' since its in NZ ? :) ) for Fallow on the North Island (married to a Kiwi and we are lucky get over there fairly regularly) this will be my first hunt on the South Island and I thought I'd write it up here as I go with a review of my prep, the gear I'm taking and then the trip itself.

I'm leaving next week to go see family on the North Island, from there the plan is to fly down from Wellington to Christchurch on the 2nd Feb, pickup a car and then drive to Canterbury/ Mt cook area for 4-5 days solo in the MT Cook/ Lawrence/ Rangitata.

Haven't yet decided on whether to hike in (probably 10K each way) or Heli (or maybe in on foot, Heli out) but a lot will depend on what the conditions are when I get there (for time of year it should be 12-15 degrees and fairly settled, but the Southern Alps are notoriously unpredictable and right now its a few below freezing at night with rain and gales! I hope its better by the time I get there!).

Prep has being going on for a long time and I thought others might be interested in what I've planned, what kit I'm taking and how it goes.

Aside from practicalities of arranging the trip/ transporting firearms etc, the big factor is that I'll be solo.

I thought long and hard about this and talked to people I know in NZ who hunt along with guys from the DOC about the practicalities/ considerations and in the end decided that providing the risks were sensibly managed I'd much prefer the solo experience.

While that's no problem for the stalking I do over here (summer stalking in Hampshire and Surrey is pretty safe in any case!), I'm acutely aware a mistake over there (that here would be a phone call and trip to A&E perhaps), could get you into serious trouble really quickly as at best help is probably hours away if you can raise it.

Beyond the weather there's the nature of the environment that Tahr live in, the altitude and accessibility being the big factors. Most shots are at a long distance (300M not uncommon) and everything will have to come together for a successful outcome.

So with that in mind, this is NOT intended as a 'how to', 'best practice' or guide to organising this kind of trip.

Though I've spend time in the mountains, climbed a bit and stalked more, I'm by no means expert an any of the subjects here. But If you want to organise something similar this might provide a useful point of reference.

For me the main benefit is that anyone who does have something to say/ advise or contribute with knowledge that I don't, might be able to do so :)

I have no ego about this so if you think I'm making a mistake or have misjudged something please speak up!

I thought I'd organise this write up into an initial post with something along the lines of:


  • Trip Plan
  • Objectives
  • My key considerations
  • (Update: part 1 now posted here )
  • Kit I'm taking




on return, followed by :


  • Travel (including my experience travelling with firearms)
  • Arrival / Decisions on the ground
  • The trip itself
  • A conclusion (hopefully lots of pics).

I'll try to get started ASAP.
 
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My advice would be to heli in, it will give you more flexibility with your equipment and supplies and more or less guarantee a more enjoyable experience as you can leave excess in your base camp and crack on with the hunting. The worst case scenario is you find that all your kit plus food plus your rifle is a lot of weight in that terrain than you prepared for and after a few hours of walking you are going to start regretting it. Have you weighed all your kit plus rifle? I was down there last March and had a fantastic time.

I'm coming around to that view also. I don't yet have everything ready to know the final weight, but know that if I hike in I will inevitably make choices based on it. As you say having everything on hand at base in the hut would be a sensible choice. What region were you in?
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Mate if you solo in a three man chopper you can take a double bed.

Haha, yeah just need someone to keep it warm while I'm out :) Can't see the wife stepping up that that one though. I spoke to a couple of operators a week or so ago actually and one possibility is to share a ride with another group (groups of climbers apparently fairly frequently charter choppers).
 
I'm coming around to that view also. I don't yet have everything ready to know the final weight, but know that if I hike in I will inevitably make choices based on it. As you say having everything on hand at base in the hut would be a sensible choice. What region were you in?
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We were up near Lake Tekapo. Flew up into the mountains didn't take long but the pilot reckoned it would have taken a few days to hike in. Plenty of Tahr about. We did a few days up at the Tahr then went to Mt Nimrod for Wallabies, Chamois and Pigs for a few days then up near Kaikoura for red deer and goats. NZ is an awesome country, i want go back it is a hunters paradise.

What is your total luggage allowance? You would be surprised how much all the light things add upto! My pal got stung for £300 excess on the way back!!!
 
Any where around Franz /Fox Glaciers every second farm has a chopper parked at the farm house. I think James Scott is the man that most use,last I heard he had around nine.
But he has years of exp and I mean years.

My next run in NZ (if I get back) due to physical handbrakes and age will be taking a lift up top with a chopper.
 
Hi fcp,

I did a very similar trip last year in April. PM me and i can go through what I learnt from my experience. I'm planning a return trip in 2018.

Just for my own interest, do you just take a couple of choice cuts from the shot beast and leave the carcass, or is it feasible to retrieve the carcass back to base each day?The South Island is on my bucket list-especially for the trout fishing!
 
We were up near Lake Tekapo. Flew up into the mountains didn't take long but the pilot reckoned it would have taken a few days to hike in. Plenty of Tahr about. We did a few days up at the Tahr then went to Mt Nimrod for Wallabies, Chamois and Pigs for a few days then up near Kaikoura for red deer and goats. NZ is an awesome country, i want go back it is a hunters paradise.

What is your total luggage allowance? You would be surprised how much all the light things add upto! My pal got stung for £300 excess on the way back!!!

That's near where I'm headed (a valley over most likely). Total luggage I have available is 100Kgs between me, my wife and 4 year old (who isn't coming hunting :) ). It remains to be seen if we can get it all done for that... otherwise yes it is eye watering.. they are current charging £900 per 20Kgs :/
 
Just for my own interest, do you just take a couple of choice cuts from the shot beast and leave the carcass, or is it feasible to retrieve the carcass back to base each day?The South Island is on my bucket list-especially for the trout fishing!

I was planning to take the back steak, head cape and I'm afraid leave the rest.. no way of getting it off the mountain
 
That's near where I'm headed (a valley over most likely). Total luggage I have available is 100Kgs between me, my wife and 4 year old (who isn't coming hunting :) ). It remains to be seen if we can get it all done for that... otherwise yes it is eye watering.. they are current charging £900 per 20Kgs :/

Why not freight/ship a lot of your gear to an NZ address to pick up on arrival....surely that wont cost anything like the 900 nicker!
 
I was planning to take the back steak, head cape and I'm afraid leave the rest.. no way of getting it off the mountain

And don`t be held "accountable" re the meat retrieval by those that dont know the logistical nightmare of such.In that country you can only get by in carrying your 'house' on your back most of the time let alone being further burdened by the arse end of a bull tahr.
 
Fcp, I look forward to hearing of your trip, I'm flying over on the 7th of Feb for a month tahr/chamois hunting self guided. If you want feel free to pm me as it will be my second trip hunting tahr
 
Haha, yeah just need someone to keep it warm while I'm out :) Can't see the wife stepping up that that one though. I spoke to a couple of operators a week or so ago actually and one possibility is to share a ride with another group (groups of climbers apparently fairly frequently charter choppers).

Out of interest, did you get as far as getting some ballpark figures for this service?
 
Fcp, I look forward to hearing of your trip, I'm flying over on the 7th of Feb for a month tahr/chamois hunting self guided. If you want feel free to pm me as it will be my second trip hunting tahr

Thanks and I will do (also Adam and Rich who PM'd me - sorry not to have got back to you but work and family have kept me pretty occupied). Tuesday is my first day free so I'll give you a shout then if that's OK.
 
Trip Plan and Objectives

Summary:
4 nights/ 5 days hunting for Tahr (chamois if I see them) in the alpine region (1000>1800m) region of Mount Cook, or Rangitata River Canterbury, New Zealand.
Self-guided, solo trip, staying at Department of conservation (DOC) huts overnight (typically valley basin@ 1000>1200m with daily trips up the mountain).

The following items are representative of the various things I've been thinking about in relation to the trip. Some are factual (planning), others just on my mind. Jump in with anything I've forgotten/ overlooked or not thought about.


Plan
- Arrive in NZ (North Island, Auckland), 27th Jan. Staying with relatives a few days, then review plan in light of forecasts..then either:

Plan A - Weather is OK.
- Fly from Wellington to Christchurch 2nd Feb AM.
- Hire car (4x4), spend an hour or two in Christchurch collecting supplies (gas, food mainly). Mountain Radio. Plan to speak to a couple of locals when I arrive too. Check weather, then assuming mt Cook area looks OK.
- Drive to Mt Cook (3.5 hrs), check-in with DOC centre, revise plan accordingly. Stay in YHA overnight.
- AM 3rd - depending on circumstances, possible Heli charter to a selected area/ hut with kit
- 3rd, 4th,5th, 6th AM hunting
- Heli out PM of 6th, collect car, stay at YHA overnight
- return flight from Christchurch to Wellington PM of the 7th.

Plan B - Weather precludes trip
Something else! Probably either chamois (top of South island, lower altitudes and hopefully better weather), or stay on North island and find something else to do (Fallow, boar or feral goats I expect!).

Assuming plan A... the rest is as follows:


Objectives
- Be safe and return in one piece, ideally having hunted a bull Tah/ accompanying nannies, but not at any price!
- Enjoy the experience and environment - I have very rarely ever stalked with anyone else and I'm quite happy with my own company normally. This will be to an extreme!
- Learn something (many things!) new. Different and very challenging environment and quarry, not to be taken for granted.
- Provide something that might be of interest to others - trip notes/ what went well (didn't), what I'd do again etc.


Key considerations (part 1 in this post)

- Safety is the overriding factor. Return safely and it will still be an amazing experience even if I never see an animal.
Recognisng that mountains are inherently more dangerous places to be and being solo offers limited options to rely on others when something goes wrong. Under this heading:
- Weather
- Kit
- Emergency Planning
- Kit (non safety related). How much to take, what style of living (camping/ bivy vs hut). Rifle, ammo, peripherals, clothing choice

Part 2 (later post) will include:
- Travel (firearms, licensing, weight limits)
- Hike vs Heli
- Food
- Recording, documenting the trip


Weather
Mt Cook area should be something like Wales early autumn (say 15 degrees @ 1000M) around the beginning of Feb, however they have had an unusually cold and wet summer and as of last week (16th) were seeing heavy rain and galeforce winds that would have written off the trip entirely I think. This week is slightly better, but rain has given way to snow at altitudes as low as 1200M). The week of the 2nd is forecast to be better still, but who knows.. NZ weather can turn on a dime, in the mountains especially so.. just have a look at the web cam below (yesterday @ WhareKea Lodge, about 100Ks south of Mt Cook @ only a few hundred meters above sea level!



Kit (safety) - in the plan so far.,
In addition to suitable clothing (multi-layered, merino base, Primaloft/ down innners with Gortex outers with several changes of socks, gloves, hat).
I have a 406Mhz personal locator beacon, strobe, emergency shelter (in addition to lightweight bivy and tarp) and 4 season sleeping bag as well as cynalume sticks, compass and Topographic GPS (Garmin 64ST)
Question on whether mountain radio is required.
Boots are critical. Must be completely waterproof, offer a lot of support and be lightweight (more on this as a separate post but after a bit of research I settled on some Diotto Auchleeks as detailed elsewhere).
Medical kit will include clotting agent/ bandages (Celox) as well as typical hiking supplies (bandages, tweezers, scissors, iodine spray, anti-histamine) and strong analgesics.
Fire-starting includes waterproof matches, striker and spark.
Heat packs, suncream, glasses (spectacles, sun)


-Question is what have I missed? -

Emergency Planning - the things on my mind!

- Risk analysis, mitigation steps. Swiss cheese model of risk (cascade failures!). Decisions you make are key.
- Emergency Action plan : self rescue vs external help
- Weather related (getting weathered in for example). How best to plan this e.g. timings etc?

- Questions - What represents acceptable risk? River crossings, rugged terrain, exposed locations etc.

Kit - To be covered in a separate post, but in summary:

- Rifle, ammo - .260 rem have the legs for this? (on balance I decided it does since I know how it shoots and that will be a key factor). Loads (140gn) heavier than I use in the UK, zeroing required (done, see separate post).
- Scope (S&B PMII 3-12x50), binos (10x50 Steiner), range finder (Leica 900).
- Knive: Morro stainless x2
- Clothing. Camo or not (post to follow, settled on combination of Sitka and Harkila Opti-fade with Pro-hunter trousers as spare dry pair to carry).
- Pack. Travel pack/ day pack, weight, balance, comfort.
- Sticks / rest or bipod?
- Cooking (cannister, MSR Windburner)
- Waterproofing - pack back, dry bags.
- Climbing kit includes a pair of ascenders, self-locking descender, slings, a lightweight harness and carabiners. Not planning to take an axe (but might based on the video above), helmet is on question list, but will probably acquire along with 40m of lightweight semi-static 9mm rope when I get to Christchurch. Not convinced this is worth taking, but partly falls under safety category and if heli then weight no problem.

-Question is what have I missed? What don't I need?-

.. more to follow...
 
Varies a bit, but typically £5-600 each way depending on distance (say 10Ks typical).

Well it looks as if I won't be arriving by helicopter. I walk 10Ks 3 mornings a week before breakfast. That's probably more than a round the world ticket.


The guided prices make hunting in UK/Europe seem unfeasibly cheap.

https://www.bookyourhunt.com/hunting-in-new-zealand

http://www.alpinehunting.com/pricing-packages.html

It would be interesting to hear what you think your trip will cost, if you feel comfortable divulging that information.
 
Those prices are more for the rich yank that likes to shoot them 'ranch ' style. Note SCI scores gives you another heads up.
One only has to look at the usual gallery`s on the hunt pages..outlandish multi pointed red stags that are just abnormal,made to order for the rich fat man.
There are a couple of blokes that do it fair and square outside any fences for a lot less than the ridiculous figures in the ads.

BTW there wouldnt be one stag below that was shot in the wild

[h=1]RED STAG[/h]
 
Well it looks as if I won't be arriving by helicopter. I walk 10Ks 3 mornings a week before breakfast. That's probably more than a round the world ticket.


The guided prices make hunting in UK/Europe seem unfeasibly cheap.

https://www.bookyourhunt.com/hunting-in-new-zealand

http://www.alpinehunting.com/pricing-packages.html

It would be interesting to hear what you think your trip will cost, if you feel comfortable divulging that information.

10Ks several times a week for me too.. however the terrain out there is something else (and you are carrying 30-45kgs doing it). The heli option is expensive, but when you think that you will probably get several days hunting for that and given that everythign else is lowq/ no cost (no trophy fees, outing fees, shot fees and all the other things that some people wind up paying for), I can take a deep breath and swallow it.

No problem sharing cost. Flying half way around the world and shooting something is never going to be low cost, but actually this way (and huge caveat here is that 'this way' remains to be tested - its might be a very disapointing trip in which case the money is wasted) is cheaper than many of the alternative (especially as John says if you compare to the market that services dentists from Chicago! (no offence intended to anyone that is ;) ).

Rough costs

Travel etc

Flights to Auckland £1200 (rtn) with Emirates (excess on baggage would have been + ~£500 if I didn't have spare capacity with my 4 year old!)
Visitors firearms license £15
From Auckland > Christchurch £220 (rtn) with Jetstar - additional luggage allowance required
Car Hire £300 (7 days, with all the insurance options which in my experience are worth taking in NZ)
Hostel/ hostel per night £50 x 3
Heli rtn £1000 (could be less/ a lot less if I can jump on a share with someone).
Hut stay - a few dollars per night
Food/ consumables - £150 estimate
Insurance - BASC cover accident, liability. Normal travel insurance often doesn't cover hunting (and especially not this), NFU were able to cover for £65 off the back of my home policy. Firearms also covered under this

Gear costs (stuff that I didn't have that was essential that I might not have an immediate use for here)

Personal Locator beacon £250 (cheapest waterproof model, ACR)
Garmin GPS 64st £375, Topo maps of NZ, free from web - phone is no good in this situation for obvious reasons.

So I suppose around £3.5K was the starting point (on the other hand, I was going to see family anyway, so the flights there were a sunk cost!).

I've also taken the opportunity to update some kit that wasn't really ideally suited to this mission (lightweight camo gortex jacket/ trousers etc) and bought a few other things that I will also reuse again over the years so probably can justify it that way (to the wife anyway!). There are a number of things that if you don't have them would be essential though (decent hunting back-pack/ day pack, boots, gloves etc).. My next post is about kit so I'll cover what I'm takinig in more detail in that anyway.
 
Kit I'm taking

I'll provide a full list and commentary later, for now packing is done and here are some before and after shots :)

Total weight 49Kgs.

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