New Zealand for Bull Tahr and Chamois, Feb 2017, Solo

Though I've been stalking (or maybe I should say 'hunting' since its in NZ ? :) ) for Fallow on the North Island (married to a Kiwi and we are lucky get over there fairly regularly) this will be my first hunt on the South Island and I thought I'd write it up here as I go with a review of my prep, the gear I'm taking and then the trip itself.

I'm leaving next week to go see family on the North Island, from there the plan is to fly down from Wellington to Christchurch on the 2nd Feb, pickup a car and then drive to Canterbury/ Mt cook area for 4-5 days solo in the MT Cook/ Lawrence/ Rangitata.

Haven't yet decided on whether to hike in (probably 10K each way) or Heli (or maybe in on foot, Heli out) but a lot will depend on what the conditions are when I get there (for time of year it should be 12-15 degrees and fairly settled, but the Southern Alps are notoriously unpredictable and right now its a few below freezing at night with rain and gales! I hope its better by the time I get there!).

Prep has being going on for a long time and I thought others might be interested in what I've planned, what kit I'm taking and how it goes.

Aside from practicalities of arranging the trip/ transporting firearms etc, the big factor is that I'll be solo.

I thought long and hard about this and talked to people I know in NZ who hunt along with guys from the DOC about the practicalities/ considerations and in the end decided that providing the risks were sensibly managed I'd much prefer the solo experience.

While that's no problem for the stalking I do over here (summer stalking in Hampshire and Surrey is pretty safe in any case!), I'm acutely aware a mistake over there (that here would be a phone call and trip to A&E perhaps), could get you into serious trouble really quickly as at best help is probably hours away if you can raise it.

Beyond the weather there's the nature of the environment that Tahr live in, the altitude and accessibility being the big factors. Most shots are at a long distance (300M not uncommon) and everything will have to come together for a successful outcome.

So with that in mind, this is NOT intended as a 'how to', 'best practice' or guide to organising this kind of trip.

Though I've spend time in the mountains, climbed a bit and stalked more, I'm by no means expert an any of the subjects here. But If you want to organise something similar this might provide a useful point of reference.

For me the main benefit is that anyone who does have something to say/ advise or contribute with knowledge that I don't, might be able to do so :)

I have no ego about this so if you think I'm making a mistake or have misjudged something please speak up!

I thought I'd organise this write up into an initial post with something along the lines of:


  • Trip Plan
  • Objectives
  • My key considerations
  • (Update: part 1 now posted here )
  • Kit I'm taking




on return, followed by :


  • Travel (including my experience travelling with firearms)
  • Arrival / Decisions on the ground
  • The trip itself
  • A conclusion (hopefully lots of pics).

I'll try to get started ASAP.
 
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fcp you are doing it very thoroughly too.However you must remember that walking around the house with the full pack on where it seems comfortable enough goes to shiite in the first 1/2 mile with the terrain.

I couldn't see your weeks food in the above pics,something which adds even more weight. Food is heavy even the freeze dried adds up and the problem of not having enough bulk to fill the guts is always there.

We had flour to make bannock with added cranberries,once its gone you no longer have to carry it of course. A freeze dried meal is ok but a bloke like me could do with four every time ha ha.

I suggest that you look at your gear again and cut whatever you can from it..I`m sure that you could. EG do you really need a bipod? In a mountain environment where the rocks are plenty to lay a jacket on etc.
 
FCP, out of interest, in what scenario do you envisage using the rope / ascenders / harness?

I haven't hunted in New Zealand but I do have some experience of various steep places around the world and I'm struggling slightly to see what use they are. Genuine question and I hope no offence caused as none intended!
 
Worth seeing how the pros do it.. food pack for 10 days and full pack example



 
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fcp you are doing it very thoroughly too.However you must remember that walking around the house with the full pack on where it seems comfortable enough goes to shiite in the first 1/2 mile with the terrain.

I couldn't see your weeks food in the above pics,something which adds even more weight. Food is heavy even the freeze dried adds up and the problem of not having enough bulk to fill the guts is always there.

We had flour to make bannock with added cranberries,once its gone you no longer have to carry it of course. A freeze dried meal is ok but a bloke like me could do with four every time ha ha.

I suggest that you look at your gear again and cut whatever you can from it..I`m sure that you could. EG do you really need a bipod? In a mountain environment where the rocks are plenty to lay a jacket on etc.

Yes that's right I know. Food I'm going to buy when I get to Christchurch next week. The 15Kgs actually includes the weight of the Peli flight case @15Kgs and by the time I rationalise I think I can get to 30Kgs inclusive of food. Freeze dried are alway a bit optimistic and I'm the same 2-3 is what I really need :) I'm working on the assumption that my day pack can be <20Kgs inc rifle and yes Bipod will probably get culled.
 
FCP, out of interest, in what scenario do you envisage using the rope / ascenders / harness?

I haven't hunted in New Zealand but I do have some experience of various steep places around the world and I'm struggling slightly to see what use they are. Genuine question and I hope no offence caused as none intended!

Honestly I don't plan to use them at all and all of my routes have been planned (Google Earth) with about 1:6 i.e. no gear required. On the other hand, having done a fair bit of climbing I just would rather have them in case I get into a situation where weather (for example) meant that a section of a decent was done more safely with rope (or perhaps something gets blocked and you need to take another route). Harness and lockable descender are there for that, ascenders are there because you don't want to make a decision that turns out to be impossible to reverse (and in cold with gloves even on a gentle slope, ascenders make it easy to get back! Kit is light and I'll buy a 9mm semi-static when I get to Christchurch which are available from around 50gm/m so you are probably only adding 1.5Kg overall for some peace of mind.
 
Honestly I don't plan to use them at all and all of my routes have been planned (Google Earth) with about 1:6 i.e. no gear required. On the other hand, having done a fair bit of climbing I just would rather have them in case I get into a situation where weather (for example) meant that a section of a decent was done more safely with rope (or perhaps something gets blocked and you need to take another route). Harness and lockable descender are there for that, ascenders are there because you don't want to make a decision that turns out to be impossible to reverse (and in cold with gloves even on a gentle slope, ascenders make it easy to get back! Kit is light and I'll buy a 9mm semi-static when I get to Christchurch which are available from around 50gm/m so you are probably only adding 1.5Kg overall for some peace of mind.

Mmmm, I figured it must be something like that. Trouble is, after you've made one ab and pulled the rope, you're probably kinda committed anyway. Personally think I'd stay away from the steep stuff and just take axe and crampons, but that's just me! Have a good trip anyway.
 
Not all of it is rock work,in many places you have to get through the 'monkey scrub' which can be an exhausting process on your way up to the open tops.Ask the Kiwis about Spaniard spear grass,you will love that when you put your arse on it ha ha.


[h=2]Aciphylla horrida (Horrid Spaniard)[/h]Kingdom: Plantae
(Unranked):Angiosperms
(Unranked):Eudicots
(Unranked):Asterids
Order:Apiales
Family:Apiaceae
Genus:Aciphylla
Species: Aciphylla horrida
Common name: Horrid Spaniard
Found only in New Zealand's South Island.
Aciphylla horrida is large alpine herb growing up to 1m in moist tussock herb field or open mountain shrubland. It belongs to the genus Aciphylla of the Umbelliferae (carrot family). They grow tussock-like clumps with large leaves which are deeply divided into hard, rigid segments tipped by needle-sharp spines.
The yellow flower stems grow to 1.5m in summer. The flower and the later seed, heads are dense, narrow and lance-like. These individual flower clusters are densely aggregated on the upper parts of the lances. These are exceeded in length by their associated bracts. These bracts have segments as spiny as those of the leaves consisting of thousands of little flowers surrounded by small spines.
It is suggested that the excessive spininess is a defence against browsing animals in pre-human times in New Zealand which would have been the moas.
The Maoris use to use a rope to pull the plant out of the ground to get the tubers for food. The rest of the plant was hung above a fire to extract a sweet smelling resin that was used as chewing gum and the moulding of jewellery.
 
good luck i spent a year down there in the late eighties and spent a bit of time with Bill Preston and Gary Joll who then had the superb lillybank station which had some of the best thar around ENJOY
 
Hello Everyone

John here dropped me a msg to remind me that I hadn't updated this thread for which I apologise..I got back in March but pressure of work and family has kept me fully occupied!

I will write up properly, but the headlines were that it was a great experience.. better than I could have imagined and I'd recommend it. No Tahr bagged in the end (3 hunts in the 5 days, c. 2500m climbed but just ended up in the wrong place each evening).. I never worry about not shooting anything though (if I did I'd have given up Roe stalking years ago!) as it was worth it for the experience of being completely on my own in such an amazing environment.

Other points:

Travelling with Firearms


Taking Firearms was no bother at NZ end. $20 license, fill your boots (Police at Auckland Airport were more interested in where I was going to hunt and giving me tips on what I should look for).

UK and Dubai on the other hand was a PITA (2 ppl met me at reception, escorted to secure area, completed export paperwork etc etc), bloody typical hysterical nonsense that you would expect I suppose. Coupled with the issues over luggage weight allowance I think that for when I return in 2018 I'll leave my rifle and buy something new to leave over there and use each time (I'll upload a video from GunCity - pretty much anything you want from .22RF to 338LPM/ 50BMP over the counter).

Being on your own in the Backcountry

I've spent a bit of time in this environment before so I knew what to expect. Its still a bit sobering when the Heli flies off and you know you are on your own. I stayed in a Hut as my base - very comfortable but it meant a climb (800M) each day to get to where I expected animals to be.

You have to think about every decision you make in that kind of environment; That's kind of the attraction for me I suppose. It forces you to clear your head of anything else (work, home etc etc). At night especially (I had a couple of nights on the mountain, one planned, one not) there is an incredibly strong urge to get home (back to the hut), but trying to climb scree slopes in the dark is a suicide mission.. I had a funny incident one evening pitched on a slope in my bivvie (it let go and I slid down the slope!), but otherwise uneventful.

Kit

The mountain is brutal on kit. Quick summary:

Diotto Auchleek Boots were amazing and I'll write more on them, but they were incredibly light, comfortable and supportive; totally waterproof and after 5 days on scree and rock they look like new. A perfect choice for this environment, but having tried them Roe stalking this summer they were awful (no feel and noisy as a result), on teh other hand my preferred UK boots would have been a disaster over there so tools for the job etc.

Harkila/ Sitka Optifade - Again brilliant. I don't wear camo in the UK, but the Sitka mountain pants were perfect for the climb and warm enough at night.

Climbing kit - Subject of some discussion before I left. Took up a lot of space and weight and I didn't need them in the end. However on one decent I very nearly ended up at a bluff that could have been difficult to get down from without a rope. Difficult call but on balance I wouldn't take it all again, needs further consideration because it is a real get out of jail in the right (wrong!) situation.

PLB - after water the most essential thing you can take. Push the button and save the game. My mobile actually had signal in a couple of places (not bad for a 20 min heli ride into the mountains - I can't even get reliable signal on the 7:28 to Waterloo :/)

Dedicated GPS - I can read a map just fine, but trying to locate a hut on a valley floor in the middle of the night is what makes GPS worthwhile.

Rifle (Cooper 260Rem). I suppose the Jury is out since I didn't' shoot anything! I thin the 140gn Accubonds would have done the job though (a couple of Roe didn't get up in a hurry when I used them earlier in May!). Weight is the #1 thing you'll care about when carrying a rifle in this environment though and though my Cooper isn't super heave, the 3-12 PMII (also a good choice for the environment) and steel can made a big difference. Scope I'd probably not trade, but I took a look at the new Oceania Defence Titanium mods at the Phoenix this weekend and placed an order off the back of this experience (they weight just 145grams).. I wish I'd picked one up while I was there since they are actually made in NZ.

Food/ water

Water available from streams. Giuardia bug is fairly commonplace though so invest in a water purification system (I use a Katadyn). Jetboil worked well and was lightweight (one canister enough for 5 days but take 2 in case). Packing enough calories in small enough space is challenging and had I not stayed in a hut I think this would have been impossible to do if I had to carry everything. Needs more thought for next time.

Environment


I'll let the photos do the talking. Extreme, beautiful, inspiring. Huge avalanche on an opposing peak across the valley on the first evening.. went on for a couple of minutes with an unimaginable amount of snow and rock.. it sounded and felt like the end of the world.. just amazing to see!

Weather can change on a dime. A sudden storm can see you stuck on the mountain or in a hut for a few days if the Heli can't get in to collect you. The pilot who came to pick me up was a hunter himself and turned up a half day early because of this. He was the only guy flying anything that day in the Mt Cook region and I was the only passenger as the conditions were so bad..

Heli

I don't like helis in general (I've jumped out of a few hundred planes but only been in a heli a couiple of times), expensive (£1.2K), but for what I wanted to do the only option. Pick a reputable company (Heliworks were great - see the amazing landing the pilot performed in 70MPH storm winds when he picked me up!). Next time I'll work the other way around and have the pilot drop me at the top of a mountain and work my way down I think!


That's it for now - I'll post some photos a bit later.
 
Tell me more about the oceana defence moderator in the uk. Who is importing them. The last thing I heard they weren't interested in the civilian market.

145gr is amazing. How much are they?
 
odefenceuk

£570 is not cheap, but their method of manufacture (selective laser sintering - basically 3D printing with lasers and titanium powder) which is what enables the unique internal structure and hence weight is a lengthy/ low volume process. From memory though its not far off what I paid for a quicksilver titanium mod when they were still available in the UK. Either way worth for the weight reduction (it will also go on the short barrel custom Ruger No.1 I'm doing as a woods gun where weight is even more of an issue).

I'll be putting a Third Eye Tactical SPartan reflex unit (up-to .30) on the classified if anyone is interested
 
FCP - sorry to see you didn't have much luck.
I've actually emigrated to the south island and moved across here at christmas. I haven't done anywhere near the amount of hunting I wanted to yet, but have done 20 odd days in the mountains.
Surprised you were paying that much for hell's as the ones I've used have definitely not been near that cost.
I'd agree with the sentiment of taking a PLB - two hunters have died here in the last three weeks on the west coast.
If you head out here again let me know and I can give you some pointers of where to go and which Heli-operators to use. Costs and success rates vary tremendously as does the terrain they drop you into!
The biggest difference I noticed here compared to the European Mountain ranges is the speed the weather changes at. Here we truly do have four seasons in a day.
All the best
SWS
 
FCP, out of interest, in what scenario do you envisage using the rope / ascenders / harness?

I haven't hunted in New Zealand but I do have some experience of various steep places around the world and I'm struggling slightly to see what use they are. Genuine question and I hope no offence caused as none intended!
i also went to NZ. Hunting and fishing.
 
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