17hmr vs 22 hornet
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Smellydog
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Tastes aweful either or. Can't recommend it.
tim@tcs
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They are sought after in the USA with second hand ones fetching a $1000.
tim@tcs
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Just sold a lovely T3 in 222 for £200 it was a bargain
tim@tcs
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I find Privi is pretty reliable as a factory load just know your limits if you don’t reload
Those who know me personally would no doubt state I love to load but frankly this is one caliber I’m happy with so far. Further out I’d use my .22-250 which is laser flat out to 350 yards easily
I found Privi to ricochet a lot, whereas I hardly ever get a ricochet with other home loads. Groups were about 2-3" in my rifle, so not great.
tim@tcs
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I’m struggling with getting group’s consistent thanks to nerve damage but most of my work with loads is about safely achieving certain velocities
Unfortunately I can’t trust myself to stalk singlehanded in case I get a spasm and throw a shot badly but so far it’s just a fear and most of my single shots have been on the nail
I tend to have to build a test group as five separate shots with a break between each shot
Unfortunately I can’t trust myself to stalk singlehanded in case I get a spasm and throw a shot badly but so far it’s just a fear and most of my single shots have been on the nail
I tend to have to build a test group as five separate shots with a break between each shot
tim@tcs
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That would be bullet construction I’d imagine although hitting a fox should remove the risk of the ricochet!
Yeah, well known as bullet stoppers those light bodied, thin skinned foxes, perfect back stop !!
tim@tcs
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If hit right they will slow down the projectile especially if two are side by side
jthyttin
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What sight you have on the 22-250? If it allows multiple zeros (like digi and thermal), just use reduced load? Or maybe you can get away with single zero but it's a gamble...
Of course ammo should be kept separate, but you'd probly want to use different bullets anyway, like SP designed for Hornet. E.g. Hodgdon readily lists 2000fps / 55gr Trailboss load, and also H4895. Velocity not listed since it's a universal load, but data is available from 35gr to 70gr bullets in 22-250.
Reduced loads:
hodgdon.com
Basic load data, select 22-250 and H4895 as powder:
Of course ammo should be kept separate, but you'd probly want to use different bullets anyway, like SP designed for Hornet. E.g. Hodgdon readily lists 2000fps / 55gr Trailboss load, and also H4895. Velocity not listed since it's a universal load, but data is available from 35gr to 70gr bullets in 22-250.
Reduced loads:
Hodgdon - Hodgdon Powder Company
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hodgdon.com
Basic load data, select 22-250 and H4895 as powder:
"Yeah, well known as bullet stoppers those light bodied, thin skinned foxes, perfect back stop !!"
This is I suspect why the question arises the hmr is generally stopped by a fox not always but often . If it does get through it's not got much left .
Some of my areas are a bit flat and surrounded for comfort so the smallest most fragile projectile that will do the job Is my best option . Less is more in my situation. I don't disregard the 17s potential danger but certainly use it in places I'd not consider the 223 /308. Range is obviously the compromise and I don't go past 120 .
This is I suspect why the question arises the hmr is generally stopped by a fox not always but often . If it does get through it's not got much left .
Some of my areas are a bit flat and surrounded for comfort so the smallest most fragile projectile that will do the job Is my best option . Less is more in my situation. I don't disregard the 17s potential danger but certainly use it in places I'd not consider the 223 /308. Range is obviously the compromise and I don't go past 120 .
Having had both I discarded the 17Hornet as it certainly doesn't have the stopping power of the 22 Hornet on foxes but as a long-range crow or rabbit round it's brilliant.
Fox Red
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What’s your definition of long range with the 17 Hornet?
tim@tcs
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H4895 no longer imported thanks to ReachWhat sight you have on the 22-250? If it allows multiple zeros (like digi and thermal), just use reduced load? Or maybe you can get away with single zero but it's a gamble...
Of course ammo should be kept separate, but you'd probly want to use different bullets anyway, like SP designed for Hornet. E.g. Hodgdon readily lists 2000fps / 55gr Trailboss load, and also H4895. Velocity not listed since it's a universal load, but data is available from 35gr to 70gr bullets in 22-250.
Reduced loads:
Hodgdon - Hodgdon Powder Company
Shoot Straighter This Spring Powder with purpose. The brand that’s True Founded in 1947 by Bruce and Amy Hodgdon and sons JB and Bob, Hodgdon is now the preferred powder for handloaders and muzzleloader hunters Our Story SHOP HODGDON Dialing in your next purchase? Shop the Hodgdon Powder line...
Basic load data, select 22-250 and H4895 as powder:
200-250 yards
Fox Red
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22 Hornet will comfortably match that with 40gr V-Max. Really is a good, cheap, no nonsense, all-rounder out to those distances
I have had the 17 hmr , i would class is at best as " could be used " on fox but dead honest i would pick up the 22lr first ! I had quite a few splash wounds on hares and the flip side zero expansion on longer range crows .
22 hornet is on the other hand the ideal for what you describe and ideal for denning time with a decent moderator .
from a 140 yard zero its 2 moa come up , 10 mph fv wind 5.6 moa correction. 45 grain seirra hornet 2850 fps . You honestly need the right day for the long shots , its still NOT a 300 yard foxer .
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