Yes. It's time for straightpull6547 to man up and admit he was wrong and stop the merry-go-round.
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Yes. It's time for straightpull6547 to man up and admit he was wrong and stop the merry-go-round.
straightpull6547
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Im sorry but what am i wrong about?
HOG doesnt approve it, his FO wont go against HOG, he cant get a fac with .204 for roe deer. Let him proove it.
the majority has accepted the legality and moved on to the morality....eventually you will get there...someone on here has sent me an e-mail with conformation from police Scotland..well he sent it to me before this thread started..he has the option of posting it to show you, but is finding your belligerent attitude and self destructive comments amusing....from some of the other comments on here its keeping quite a few others amused as well...keep up the good work!
What is so blooming difficult about the sentence highlighted in green above for people to understand?!?! THE TABLE IS PURELY A GUIDE FOR ESTABLISHING GOOD REASON TO POSSESS - IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LEGALITY OF WHAT EACH CALIBRE IS USED FOR
As Cowsmart already has two .22 centrefire rifles, I can't see him being allowed another smaller calibre if he applies for a .204 solely with deer as the good reason to possess. The table shown above, from library.college.police.uk/.../Guide-on-Firearms-Licensing-Law-2012-13-... clearly shows that they do not consider shooting deer to be good reason to possess a .204.
Sinistral
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As a member, maybe it's time to turn this over to the BDS to officially query the legality of the PS decision. That would cut through the vague assurances which have been given.
I seem to remember several references in the HOG that 'calibre X' is 'only marginally humane'.
As a member, maybe it's time to turn this over to the BDS to officially query the legality of the PS decision. That would cut through the vague assurances which have been given.
I seem to remember several references in the HOG that 'calibre X' is 'only marginally humane'.
Or if admin want to pm me with an e-mail address I can show them the e-mail and they can say on here..that is if people will believe admin.....
What is the appeal of trying any new calibre? maybe we should all just use .270 for all our shooting, it kills everything in the uk with aplomb...
Benji53
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I'm with mungo on this one you have a .222 and a very nice sounding .22-250 I'm a big fan of the .204 i shoot it a lot (fox only) but I also have a .243 which I'd rather use for roe over the .204 is a great cartridge for vermin at decent distances but as for roe out long you'd be better of with a bigger bullet . As for applying for a .204 when you have the above rifles for me it would be pointless literally
But here you seem to bumping up against the limits of humane kills. I totally understand wanting to try different things when their performance falls within a range where quick kills are more or less certain. But it's not clear that they are here.
The energy calculations are one thing, but if you don't have the wrong bullet, you're going to get runners. In this case, I suspect you face two very hard to reconcile extremes: either a rapidly expanding varmint bullet that may fail to penetrate; or a bullet that penetrates, but is so narrow, the wounding is minimal and it takes an age to bleed out.
Unless, of course, you just intend to head and neck shoot. In which case, crack on.
My initial post was asking if anyone knew of a 50 soft point....but this fetches me to my other point with the use of .243 on reds...varmint calibre, only legal with the heavier bullets that alot of rifles struggle to stabilise,I know a couple of guys that use 85/87gr bullets on red which is illegal, but I do not have a problem with as the deer cannot tell lol...but the use of .243 on a red stag is no different than the use of .204 on roe. In fact energy per kilo bodyweight the .204 should be more humane??
Jon Smith
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Bullet selection with 243 is the key, a flat base 100gn bullet will stabilise without problem, the fad for long boat tail ballistic tip is what screws the pooch for stability (and a lot of 1:10's being closer to 1:10.5+). A 50 grain bullet in 20 cal is going to be a toughie to find unless you only intend on nutting bambi that being said I know of caribou being dropped at 150yds with the 17Rem.
Got an e-mail back from hornady today saying they have nothing in the pipeline at the moment but will pass it on to their production team...bullet placement is key with any calibre as we all know, and I have no problem with nutting them lol
yes but expensive and even more so if you need to try a few to find one your rifle likes....but that is an option..you have to remember the .204 has only been around for 13 years, in rifle terms its a baby, the bullet manufacturers will get there, it will just take time..but if demand increases then who knows what will happen....fancy the idea of a .20-250 but I think that could be 400rounds/barrel lol
straightpull6547
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so you know of and condone illegal activity now. Good to publish on an open hunting forum.
No..I have decided to stop abusing children and ignore you from now on...
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