.243 Advice

I rate .243 highly. It's my second favorite cartridge after the .308. The advantage of .243 over .308 is that you can see fall of shot due to the softer recoil. For your range days I recommend reloading your own ammo as that really allows you to get the full accuracy performance from the .243. My .243 is an old and abused Tikka M55 and with factory ammo it shoots ok but with reloads it has shot ten V bulls in a row at 300yds:
 

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My license will have x2 .22 (bolt and semi) , 243 and in time a 308/6.5. I just need to get my dsq1 which is booked for next year.

I thought the local FAO would take a booking and sign off but mentioned his higher ups don’t go for it. So once done I’ll just put a variation in for a larger calibre.


Few guys at my club mentioned I should hold off on the 243 and get a 6.5 which will do it a

Faster twist rate being 1:8? The ones I’m currently looking at is the bergara crest (1:10) and sako s20 (1:8)

All rifles need re barrels right so if I got the bergara which is about £500 cheaper I can re barrel it to suit down the line….. apparently in 308 to if need be so I’ve read
Hunting rifles last most people Decades , serious target comp shooters might struggle to get through a year on one barrel though, indeed a 243 shot 50 times a week at a range would not finish the year in a competitive state . A new barrel on most rifles costs too much viewed against a new tikka etc ( my last was 600 plus and then labour but that was more than just screwing a stock barrel on )
 
I rate .243 highly. It's my second favorite cartridge after the .308. The advantage of .243 over .308 is that you can see fall of shot due to the softer recoil. For your range days I recommend reloading your own ammo as that really allows you to get the full accuracy performance from the .243. My .243 is an old and abused Tikka M55 and with factory ammo it shoots ok but with reloads it has shot ten V bulls in a row at 300yds:
Yeah I wanted to avoid reloading but I think ill
End up doing it.

Im an ex engineer and I miss the work so this will satisfy that need lol

I’ll prob need to start another thread or search reloading now 😂
 
Zeiss are good. Burris rings are the best you can get shims allow you to adjust POI without using scope adjustment and don't mark tube. Grip is exceptional.
Delta Titanium will do all you will ever need and is compatible with N V add ons.
As for ammo no suggestions as I reload. PPU good for range and probably more than adequate for live Quarry. Other members will advise.
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Hunting rifles last most people Decades , serious target comp shooters might struggle to get through a year on one barrel though, indeed a 243 shot 50 times a week at a range would not finish the year in a competitive state . A new barrel on most rifles costs too much viewed against a new tikka etc ( my last was 600 plus and then labour but that was more than just screwing a stock barrel on )
Id prob be doing 50 a month max on the 243

My plan is to keep costs down by using my 22 at the range weekly. Especially if I get the bergarra
 
Yeah I wanted to avoid reloading but I think ill
End up doing it.

Im an ex engineer and I miss the work so this will satisfy that need lol

I’ll prob need to start another thread or search reloading now 😂
Reloading is an absorbing activity for people with an engineering aptitude so I reckon it will be fun for you. I am pretty basic: I don't tumble my brass or trickle powder as I found by testing that those make no difference to accuracy. What counts in my experience is finding the optimal seating depth for the particular make of bullet in your particular rifle. That ten V bull group with my .243 was shot with the 100gr Speer BTSP bullet seated close to the lands (15 thou jump). If the bullet is seated further from the lands accuracy declines whereas in other rifles or with other bullets, a long bullet jump may be optimal. You need to discover that by testing on the range.
 
You can never be an ex engineer Watty it is the re-loaders who want to be engineers lol :norty:
I suppose , I mean I still get passed about like a scud book for any DIY which is hilarious as I fixed cranes, equipment and then worked on gas generators in medical and military sites.

But family think I can tile , plaster and do all sorts…..for free 😂😂

So reloading is appealing but in guessing courses are required and lots of high end equipment over cheap and cheerful
 
Reloading is an absorbing activity for people with an engineering aptitude so I reckon it will be fun for you. I am pretty basic: I don't tumble my brass or trickle powder as I found by testing that those make no difference to accuracy. What counts in my experience is finding the optimal seating depth for the particular make of bullet in your particular rifle. That ten V bull group with my .243 was shot with the 100gr Speer BTSP bullet seated close to the lands (15 thou jump). If the bullet is seated further from the lands accuracy declines whereas in other rifles or with other bullets, a long bullet jump may be optimal. You need to discover that by testing on the range

Yeah I’ve watched a few videos now and it does look good fun. Will google course shortly lol

I might come back to you at a later date when I start doing it. As I know this hobby is worse than drugs. Similar to my motorbike lol
 
Currently not that Keen on turning up to range days like a lemon with no rifle.

but having these visits documented will be an indication that you are keen and this isn’t a flash in the pan.

surely you’ll get to speak with knowledgeable people and learn from them, does the club have a rifle to use on the range days?
 
I suppose , I mean I still get passed about like a scud book for any DIY which is hilarious as I fixed cranes, equipment and then worked on gas generators in medical and military sites.

But family think I can tile , plaster and do all sorts…..for free 😂😂

So reloading is appealing but in guessing courses are required and lots of high end equipment over cheap and cheerful

Reloading is easy... it is just getting the right video is difficult. 🤫

 
Currently not that Keen on turning up to range days like a lemon with no rifle.

but having these visits documented will be an indication that you are keen and this isn’t a flash in the pan.

surely you’ll get to speak with knowledgeable people and learn from them, does the club have a rifle to use on the range days?
Never thought about it like that, yes they do but the club I am part of means I need to do a course before I can use them, another range I need my fan to even go in, but the one I go to is paid to shoot and pay to view/hang out which is like £10 so that's fine and 9/10 someone lets you have a shot or too bunch of super friendly guys......id say they are half 6.5 creed and half 308 do its hard take the info in a non bias way.

So far I have is >

308 has more recoil, cheaper ammo and seen as harder to shoot with ballistic so you learn more

6.5 has less recoil, ammo is more expensive, easier too shoot

what I have found physically as a new shooter is that the recoil feels no different but I would say I can track the shot better on the 6.5 so maybe that is the less recoil or maybe that's placebo due to options around me. Also prob because I'm not shooting side by side and there can be long gaps between shooting its hard to feel it out.

Google and my two local RFD does show cheaper 308 ammo but if I do reloading the costs are negligible. Again one RFD is mainly hunting so favour 308 and the other is multi but favour 6.5....Id also say the 2nd RFD is a younger group of owners and shooters. I'm 38 and the guys int he shop are 36-42
 
hahahaha I actually started to watch that thinking it was going to be a good one :lol:

The pipe grips gave it away f**k me lol
That is my friend Johan who makes a good few of the SA shooting teams barrels in his workshop what class I am not sure but a good spoof vid...I get some tooling I pick up and it goes in a my SA friends luggage and shipped to him when they go home for a visit. A hand full of small cnc tool holders are a small fortune over there and get put to good use.
 
Reloading is an absorbing activity for people with an engineering aptitude so I reckon it will be fun for you. I am pretty basic: I don't tumble my brass or trickle powder as I found by testing that those make no difference to accuracy. What counts in my experience is finding the optimal seating depth for the particular make of bullet in your particular rifle. That ten V bull group with my .243 was shot with the 100gr Speer BTSP bullet seated close to the lands (15 thou jump). If the bullet is seated further from the lands accuracy declines whereas in other rifles or with other bullets, a long bullet jump may be optimal. You need to discover that by testing on the range.
Most factory rifles are quite difficult to get real close the the rifling . Factory ammo is very jump tolerant , it has to be ! To demonstrate think 243 win 60 grains down - they shoot great but you will end up with an action filled with your load of powder!
The manufacturers know their hunting ammo will go in all sorts of different factory rifles with various factory ammo . They actually want good ammo that suits these rifles or folks wont buy further boxes, so they build ammo that isn't jump fussy . Seat a calibre deep into the neck minimum and you should not have this issue of filling your action with powder on a hunt .
Bench rest guns with super tight tolerance chambering a different matter . Then the shooter will alter the hand dies from std settings using coke can produced shims for adjustment.
 
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