30-30 on Moose... proof you don't always need a cannon?

[scrumbag]

Well folks,

A 1-4 scope and a 30-30 apparently will knock over a moose fine.

Scrummy

 

[John Gryphon]

What I liked was that he followed/stalked the cow until catching up with her and delivering the shot accurately.
Most competent stalkers/riflemen could do the above with a 30/30 or lesser calibres.
No big deal really is it.
Btw the success rate improves when one does use a superior calibre than a 30/30 though.

 

[Uncas]

348/358/ win. 35/ 350 Rem/338-06/35Whelen/9.3x62 take your pick.
30-06/8x57

 

[scrumbag]

What I liked was that he followed/stalked the cow until catching up with her and delivering the shot accurately.
Most competent stalkers/riflemen could do the above with a 30/30 or lesser calibres.
No big deal really is it.
Btw the success rate improves when one does use a superior calibre than a 30/30 though.

You have a point about carrying something that can shoot further. Though I think we sometimes worry about high powered optics and not enough low end mag

 

[Kalahari]

Mind you this getting up close might have a point. I actually met a guy who had killed a lion with a singleshot from a 22LR. ( It wasn'tone of those pune sub sonic ones though) The barrel was actually in contact with the ear apparently. Not a trick I fancy emulating but apparently the lion was snacking on one of his employees and needs must! Probably only had iron sights but at that range I don't suppose it mattered.

David.

 

[alberta boy]

Brobee , the maker of the above video , is a regular contributor on Canadian Gun Nutz . He's made a lot of very interesting ones over the years . He lives a little ways south of me and I've met him on a few occasions , a genuinely nice man . The Moose hunting video came about after a few years debate on CGN over the effectiveness of a 30/30 on Moose . Most who claimed it was useless for Moose had never used one . Brobee grew up in rural Alberta and had seen the old cartridge used many times on Moose , Elk and other large game , mostly by people who didn't read gun magazines and shot game with the rifle they had . He's an interesting guy , he's done a number of videos concerning the use of shotguns on big game , including one where he takes a Mule Deer with buckshot , very cleanly I might add .

AB

 

[scrumbag]

Seems it worked for him

 

[Freeforester]

Seen plenty of Norwegian Elg succumb to the 6,5x55 to understand that the calibre of the slug is less important than the competence of the user.

 

[willie_gunn]

Seen plenty of Norwegian Elg succumb to the 6,5x55 to understand that the calibre of the slug is less important than the competence of the user.

6.5x55 worked perfectly well on mine…though Swedish, not Norwegian.

 

[A Guy Out West]

Brobee , the maker of the above video , is a regular contributor on Canadian Gun Nutz . He's made a lot of very interesting ones over the years . He lives a little ways south of me and I've met him on a few occasions , a genuinely nice man . The Moose hunting video came about after a few years debate on CGN over the effectiveness of a 30/30 on Moose . Most who claimed it was useless for Moose had never used one . Brobee grew up in rural Alberta and had seen the old cartridge used many times on Moose , Elk and other large game , mostly by people who didn't read gun magazines and shot game with the rifle they had . He's an interesting guy , he's done a number of videos concerning the use of shotguns on big game , including one where he takes a Mule Deer with buckshot , very cleanly I might add .

AB

Knowing what you are doing makes all the difference.

 

[User00033]

Enjoyed that, informative. It’s a reminder of how different it is being so selective, the work that goes into it.

As for the .30-30, it’s always gratifying to see proper old school rifles in use on big game to put the internet naysaysers back in their boxes. It’s always a wee bit frustrating to be told over and over that such-and-such cartridge isn’t enough gun. Best thing you can do is just show ‘em.

Too many incompetent shooters hide behind big powerful rifles (and still mess it up).

 

[alberta boy]

Seen plenty of Norwegian Elg succumb to the 6,5x55 to understand that the calibre of the slug is less important than the competence of the user.

The 6.5 Swede has been used on a lot of Canadian Moose as well . One old friend used a 6.5 x 55 pretty much exclusively on everything from Deer to Moose , including one of the biggest Black Bears I've ever seen . He was a very good shot , but more importantly , knew when not to shoot , a point that gets over looked in most conversations about hunting .

AB

 

[tusker]

I will never forget the look on my mates face when I dropped an Oryx with my 243, he was using a 375 H&H and previously had taken 3 shots to put his Oryx on the deck.
Tusker

 

[User00033]

I will never forget the look on my mates face when I dropped an Oryx with my 243, he was using a 375 H&H and previously had taken 3 shots to put his Oryx on the deck.
Tusker

That mate is pretty much identical to the reaction I got from the Dutchmen when I moved to the NW Transvaal with my .243 Winchester. Highly entertaining.

 

[Sako75Hunter]

A question from someone (me) who knows little about the .30-30 calibre: why is it so much less powerful than other .30 cals like .308 and .30-06?

(Interesting discussion by the way.)

 

[Border]

Payload 30 grains of powder vs 50 to 60 in the 308 and 06.
And lower pressure limits for the usual lever actions chambered in the 30-30.

 

[Muir]

At one time there was a great hullaballoo in the press about the 30 WCF (30-30) being too much of a 'cannon' to use on deer and moose. Hunters as a lot have become spoiled. ~Muir

 

[dobber]

Buddy i hunted with shot a cow and calf with his 30/30, but the area he was stationed at meant for close quarter shooting. I have used the 300WM, the 30-06 and archery for any of my moose. Its all about shot placement.

 

[Rake Aboot]

Yeh all well and good but it can’t do Scottish Roe though can it ?

 

[Nkawu]

I know an older professional hunter (now retired) from Zim that used a 30-30 to shoot 3 Cape buffalo without much fuss. Shot placement and bullet construction are key.