.338 winmag

ziggy

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Hi guys, anybody here with experience of the .338 winmag? I've just found one and something is stirring inside me telling me to get it bought.... Any pros and cons of it etc? Cheers
 
I do not shoot mine enough. Possibly the first accepted larger bore calibre - good for plains game in Africa and pretty much everything in the US (including bear). I guess I've sort of answered the Q in as much as there's no real need in this country - but that shouldn't stop us from having one. Great pig gun....!!
 
Yeah I was thinking similar or maybe harass some long range gongs with it... It's a Sako 75 that's done next to nothing..
 
certainly got plenty of down range oomph.....when 300WM runs out of steam. Right up there with the SAUMs etc. As ever ammo/reloading components are a consideration....
 
It's got to be worth a punt, I'd love to have something a little different... How much of a monster (if at all) is it?
 
I guess it depends on what you're used to. Factory loads at 225gr let you know they are there - but it's manageable with reasonable accuracy - even with my limited skill
 
I do feel the need to buy it... I'll have to consult the the cash stash. Thanks for taking time to reply, I'm guessing it's more than capable of 1k + on targets of j do my bit?
 
I picked up a new Win 70 super grade in 2008 then bought the cases and dies and I have yet to shoot it. The Kent firearms dept would not allow me to shoot it in the UK not even on a range to sight it in, I could have it on my ticket but for overseas stalking use only.
 
I have a couple & use them both. One is a ruger fitthed with express sights which I like to use on wet days with 275 gr semi spts for big deer in heavy cover. It's a 100m rifle. I have even done the Texas heart shot on a nice red/elk stag with this with spectacular result. The other a win model 70 with 26" barrel has a 3x 9 x40mm scope & I only use 225 grn barnes X in it now. It might be ok for longer shots for some, but 300m is long for me. I have used a few 250 gn premium pills in these but found them too hard. Some of the greatest bullet failures seem to happen in this caliber, either too soft or too hard, so some thought needs to be given to their choice.
 
I picked up a new Win 70 super grade in 2008 then bought the cases and dies and I have yet to shoot it. The Kent firearms dept would not allow me to shoot it in the UK not even on a range to sight it in, I could have it on my ticket but for overseas stalking use only.

I've been wondering about that condition as I've heard it mentioned a few times on SD - I wouldnt want the first time I used a rifle to be when I was pulling the trigger on a live target, and I'd feel much more comfortable knowing that I had the rifle zeroed and was familiar with its use.

Does that consideration not carry much weight with some FLOs, or would it be acceptable to go to WMS Firearms training (where you can shoot pretty much anything) or somewhere similar if you're not allowed to use it on your cleared land? Or is it just a blanket do-not-use?
 
I picked up a new Win 70 super grade in 2008 then bought the cases and dies and I have yet to shoot it. The Kent firearms dept would not allow me to shoot it in the UK not even on a range to sight it in, I could have it on my ticket but for overseas stalking use only.
That's rubbish. A .338WM can be shot on any private HOAC range as it's only 4000 FPE.... so can .338 Lapua, which is sub 5000 FPE.

As you've had it for 8 years unshot then your FLD's assessment was right. Even If you'd justified it for 'Range Use Only' you would have lost it due to lack of interest.

If the OP is serious he can buy it as 'a target rifle'. The next complication will be ammunition. IF there's any ammo around it will be Expanding, but cases & Sierra 250gr MK can be found. If he PM's me, I can arrange an 'approved range' session no bother.
 
I was on a hunting trip for moose in B.C we had Ruger .338s one was loaded with 225gr barnes bullets,
The other was loaded with nosler 210gr partitions both got our moose, bullets worked fine.
A 200 gr would work ok for deer here.
 
certainly got plenty of down range oomph.....when 300WM runs out of steam. Right up there with the SAUMs etc. As ever ammo/reloading components are a consideration....


actually at factory speeds its got less energy pretty much across the board
The MV drop as you step up to 250-285gr bullets drops into the 2450fps range
the 300wm can push a 200gr at between 28-3000fps


I do feel the need to buy it... I'll have to consult the the cash stash. Thanks for taking time to reply, I'm guessing it's more than capable of 1k + on targets of j do my bit?

one of the first considerations is the potential for shooting through a transonic phase
the 338 is transonic some distance before the lighter 200-210 range bullets at normal MVs
250gr is your best bet but would need to be pushed at above factory MVs of around 2650fps

but you are using bullets with BCs of .67-.7 when you do it (compared to .55-.65 with the 300)
 
I have both .338wm and .300wm and have used them for years and believe me there is a BIG difference in performance on game ! I don´t care what the ballistic chart say.....the .338wm just hammers them down.
 
I have both .338wm and .300wm and have used them for years and believe me there is a BIG difference in performance on game ! I don´t care what the ballistic chart say.....the .338wm just hammers them down.


no doubt
but physics is physics, it has less energy in most comparisons and is transonic before 1000yds which is what the statements were countering

bigger frontal area makes a big difference on game though
I shoot a .222 and it knock roe deer down more times out of 10 than a .243 or 6.5x55

out of interest what weight bullets do you shoot?
 
My dad had one in Zambia in the 80s. Didn't much like it, and abandoned it after a while. Said that if it was too big/dangerous to use a .308, better to just go straight to .375.
 
bewsher500 !

I use 230gr. Norma Oryx and 250gr. Accubond in .338wm and 180-200gr. Accubond in .300wm.
 
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ok so if the .338winmag isn't going to be quite as great as I thought, what would you build on that action? For what it will cost to buy the rifle, a rebarrel really isn't an issue.
 
I've shot several ibex, Barbary sheep and boar with one.
My Spanish friend uses his for roe through to Marco Polo and loves it.
The one I've shot was a Blaser r93 and recoil was minimal.
I was very tempted to get one myself.
 
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