.45-70 Gov: Ruger no1 or Bergara BA13?

[karamoja]

My No3 45-70, with no.1 stock set on her plus the Recknagel sight and barrel band. I am currently in the process of load development with 300gn sierra. Can't wait to use it in August deep in the over grown woods for the prickets!

 

[Landy99]

Ok. Thank you all for opinions and info. SD members as knowledgeable and helpful as ever

I’m leaning towards the No1. I’m going to have a look at one Thursday - also need to get my hands on a BA13 as I’ve never seen one in the flesh.

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

just how loud is a 45-70 without a mod? jeez!

 

[Landy99]

I’d guess loud! Maybe not more so than .270 / 30 06 etc though as, while powerful, not as fast?

 

[Smellydog]

just how loud is a 45-70 without a mod? jeez!

It's ok with some bog roll in your ears

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

It's ok with some bog roll in your ears

one roll per ear I'm guessing.....

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

I’d guess loud! Maybe not more so than .270 / 30 06 etc though as, while powerful, not as fast?

not as fast but a lot of powder going bang and it's a v large bullet breaking the speed of sound

 

[Smellydog]

not as fast but a lot of powder going bang and it's a v large bullet breaking the speed of sound

Sounds much nicer with black powder

 

[tim@tcs]

I had a no1 in 25-06, I should have spent some time practicing as reloading when pointing up a Scottish hill has its moments!

 

[Rafter]

Have you considered the Henry single shot?

I've got one in 308, and I'm shocked at the accuracy it delivers. They tend to have nicer wood than the Rugers also.

 

[KimE]

Local band "the only government i`ll trust"

 

[kenbro]

I admit I’m a little anal about catching brass even when hunting but over the years I’ve become quite efficient at catching fired brass from a lever action or bolt action . It took a bit to be proficient and quick with a #1 but can be done and actually you can be better at it than ever assumed . If you care little about saving brass it’s all a moot point and quickness comes a lot faster . Just saying !

You can adjust the #1 so the case is extracted but just sits there in the action waiting for you to pick it out.
Kb.

 

[Klenchblaize]

There’s only one choice

No1

Not if you add a 3rd option:

Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT
K

 

[kenbro]

Not if you add a 3rd option:
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Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT
K

I had one of those (Common or garden one) in 243 calibre.
Believe mine was made by Miroku and it had excellent workmanship.
Just couldn’t shoot it but that was me at fault.
Bought mine from Edinburgh Rifles.
Another I should have kept.
Ken.

 

[alberta boy]

Not if you add a 3rd option:
View attachment 431737
Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT
K

I had a very similiar rifle . Mine started out as a standard model octagon barreled 45/70 B78 . I ordered a sporter stock like the one above from Browning after I got got tired of being beat up by the straight stocked , cresent steel butt plate on the original rifle . It transformed the rifle and made it far more pleasant to shoot . It shot consistently under one MOA with most ammo , and just over .5 MOA with ammo it liked . Unfortunately , university tuition fees for my oldest took priority over keeping it . The B78s were a far better finished rifle than the No 1 and 3 Rugers . Strangely , they sell for less than the Rugers ( both used that is ) around here . The Wickliffe 76 rifles ( a fourth option ) sell for considerably more , if you can find one that is , they're getting increasingly harder to find . A friend of mine is getting up in years and is contemplating selling off his hunting rifles . He has a B78 45/70 and a 7mm RM version , I have dibs on both .................. but that would be greedy ................. or would it ?

AB

 

[Smellydog]

 

[alberta boy]

Mmm , yes and no . I installed a scope on the 45/70 . It was more a matter of drop on the stock than butt plate placement . I was shooting 400 gr bullets at about 1850 fps through it at the time , the slap in the cheek got old very quickly , the higher cheek piece on the sporter stock made it completely comfortable to shoot . If I would have used iron sights , the original stock configuration would have been fine , but I do understand where you're coming from .

AB

 

[Lee the Gun]

Not if you add a 3rd option:
View attachment 431737
Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT Browning B78 Rifle in 45-70 Falling Block Presentation Model #461 / 1000 - MINT want
K

I sooooo want to buy one of these!!!!!!

 

[Klenchblaize]

I tried to purchase one in 45-70 from a chap on Guntrader late last year but he simply ignored my messages.

K

 

[25 Sharps]

not as fast but a lot of powder going bang and it's a v large bullet breaking the speed of sound

It’s going bang at a lower pressure and slower speed though.