6x42 scope

[Bigboab29]

I'm not going to shoot at 1000 yards either, but if i can identify its sex at 1000 yards it saves me having to stalk 900 yards in to a safe distance for the shot if it is not the sex i'm after, which would allow me to have a look else where for a deer more suited to my cull plan.


Back to ACM's thread - a 6x42 is definatly ample for the task i just like a bit more mag for said reasons but each to there own.

 

[Tamus]

I see what your saying so to speak BUT isnt it the same as pointing your rifle at a beast and deciding not to squeeze one off ???

No!

The telescopic sighting type of device on a firearm is an aiming device and nothing more. A rifle should not be pointing at the target until you know you are going to shoot it. Now, I accept there may be problems arise, of one sort or another, which make you decline to actually take the shot. The target may move, it may become or seem about to become obscured by another beast or a blowing branch, etc etc, but the rifle would not, should not, have been pointed at the target animal unless it was regarded as a suitable target first. That's just basic, page one, safety.

 

[jamross65]

Well, I have a 6-24x50 Swarovski on my rifle and a pair of 7x42 Binos. I can see the deer through the binos butif I want to see what kind of a head a stag or buck has and it is several hundred yards away, then I confess to using the scope as well. Not with a round chambered...

However, there is many a time I have been pointing the rifle at a beast even with the safety off with every intention of shooting it just waiting for the right angle when it turns, and sometimes it has never come...

Anyway, as for 6x42 scopes, one of the best wee scopes I have used (on friends guns, never owned myself) is a 1.5-6x42 Swarovski. cannot be bettered for woodland stalking IMO when shooting off sticks, freehand or leaning against a tree. almost like shooting with open sights!

That said, if the wee bit extra weight is not an issue and Itbis for the hill then personally I would probably opt for a 8x50. More likely to be used lying down with a decent lean and probably at far greater distances than most woodland stalking applications.

 

[see it shoot it]

No!

The telescopic sighting type of device on a firearm is an aiming device and nothing more. A rifle should not be pointing at the target until you know you are going to shoot it. Now, I accept there may be problems arise, of one sort or another, which make you decline to actually take the shot. The target may move, it may become or seem about to become obscured by another beast or a blowing branch, etc etc, but the rifle would not, should not, have been pointed at the target animal unless it was regarded as a suitable target first. That's just basic, page one, safety.

so your saying its OK to prepare to take a shot looking throigh the scope and then decline BUT its not Ok to check what you intend to shoot through the scope even though you may get a better look over binos ???
each to there own I susspose,I guess some people dont take full advantage over the gear they carry

 

[Tamus]

Well, I have a 6-24x50 Swarovski on my rifle and a pair of 7x42 Binos. I can see the deer through the binos butif I want to see what kind of a head a stag or buck has and it is several hundred yards away, then I confess to using the scope as well. Not with a round chambered...

However, there is many a time I have been pointing the rifle at a beast even with the safety off with every intention of shooting it just waiting for the right angle when it turns, and sometimes it has never come...

Anyway, as for 6x42 scopes, one of the best wee scopes I have used (on friends guns, never owned myself) is a 1.5-6x42 Swarovski. cannot be bettered for woodland stalking IMO when shooting off sticks, freehand or leaning against a tree. almost like shooting with open sights!

That said, if the wee bit extra weight is not an issue and Itbis for the hill then personally I would probably opt for a 8x50. More likely to be used lying down with a decent lean and probably at far greater distances than most woodland stalking applications.

Every gun should be treated as loaded gun, but hey.. if you and others like waving guns around so you can use your sooper dooper high powered rifle scopes for spotting, instead of using the right tool for the job, nothing I think or say will make any difference... that doesn't make me wrong though.

Incidentally, I've got a 6x42 Swarovski and a 1.5-6x42 S&B... Both excellent scopes and both give marginally less resolution than my 8x42 leica binos... these items of kit have been chosen to compliment each other. The bins are for target i.d. the scopes are for aiming with.

 

[see it shoot it]

Every gun should be treated as loaded gun, but hey.. if you and others like waving guns around so you can use your sooper dooper high powered rifle scopes for spotting, instead of using the right tool for the job, nothing I think or say will make any difference... that doesn't make me wrong though.

Incidentally, I've got a 6x42 Swarovski and a 1.5-6x42 S&B... Both excellent scopes and both give marginally less resolution than my 8x42 leica binos... these items of kit have been chosen to compliment each other. The bins are for target i.d. the scopes are for aiming with.

Iam quite sure everyone will agree "Every gun should be treated as loaded gun"
BUT I dont think people "wave" there rifle around even when looking at a beast through the scope,I think its quite an important requirement after spotting something with the binos,lets face it better to look twice than make a mistake once.
by the way the "right tool for the job" I would say is a high powered draw scope,but not many people carry them,apart from hill stalkers after stags

 

[jamross65]

Every gun should be treated as loaded gun, but hey.. if you and others like waving guns around so you can use your sooper dooper high powered rifle scopes for spotting, instead of using the right tool for the job, nothing I think or say will make any difference... that doesn't make me wrong though.

Incidentally, I've got a 6x42 Swarovski and a 1.5-6x42 S&B... Both excellent scopes and both give marginally less resolution than my 8x42 leica binos... these items of kit have been chosen to compliment each other. The bins are for target i.d. the scopes are for aiming with.

Sorry Tamus, not saying you are wrong either...

Just that on occasion I improvise with what I have... (that refers to the wee red bit...)

 

[kev.rem700]

I use a 6x42 s&b on my 22/250 i find it a good scope but when sexing roe can be hard.

I use my 10 power binos for that. I have a 8x56 on my 308 wich i have not long got so havnt used it much to compare

the two.

atb kev.

 

[bewsher500]

its amazing how scopes have come on since the dark ages LOL you should try one,old dog new tricks and all that

Oh yes, they now have lights and shiney bits for the marketing people to work with and so they can sell you a new version of something you already have......
please!
Scope optic design has barely changed in 50 years.
The coatings and variable chassis design may have improved and the illuminated reticules and etching technology have given more options but when I look through my 70's S&B I am seeing the same image as the guy next to me with his 2012 Z6i...
apart from the fact that no two people have the same eyesight!

I'm not going to shoot at 1000 yards either, but if i can identify its sex at 1000 yards it saves me having to stalk 900 yards in to a safe distance for the shot if it is not the sex i'm after, which would allow me to have a look else where for a deer more suited to my cull plan.

why cant you ID a deer's sex at 1000 yards with binos?
I have some 7x binos that are perfectly adequate for all but the most detailed testicular sizing

 

[Bigboab29]

With the best will in the world when looking at a roe at 1000 yards i just cannot make it out, mite be my eyes, mite be my binos but unless it has antlers about 3 feet tall I just can't make it out. That's why I like the extra mag provided from a scope, all be it a small percentage of the time as 95% of the time my binos will be perfectly adequate. Im not saying anyone is rite or wrong just letting the op know what I would do.

 

[see it shoot it]

Oh yes, they now have lights and shiney bits for the marketing people to work with and so they can sell you a new version of something you already have......
please!
Scope optic design has barely changed in 50 years.
The coatings and variable chassis design may have improved and the illuminated reticules and etching technology have given more options but when I look through my 70's S&B I am seeing the same image as the guy next to me with his 2012 Z6i...
apart from the fact that no two people have the same eyesight!




why cant you ID a deer's sex at 1000 yards with binos?
I have some 7x binos that are perfectly adequate for all but the most detailed testicular sizing

you may be seeing the same image BUT the guy with the 2012 Z6i will be seeing it clearer,brighter and will be able to pin point his shot better as I have said "if your happy thats fine" but please dont advice others "thats all you need" as some people want better.
I bet your car aint no 70s Ford Cortina without power steering,aircon and electric pack,you dont need any of them but it makes driving a whole lot better

 

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