7mm-08 or .284??

the 7.08 is a superb choice. It it were for lowland and woodland stalking I would go for this but if you shoot much at greater ranges a 7x64 will give you a little extra.
 
I'm biased as I also have 7mm-08, tried a few but settled on this. I admit I have not tried the .284.

Haven't used my .243 on deer in ages now.
 
I have owned a 284, 7wsm and 7-08, and for simplicity of reloading, components, factory ammo and rifles, the 7-08 ticke every box easily.
I am an avid reloader, but understand that not everyone is like me, the comfort of access to factory ammo is nice to have (even just the one box).

As this is all about deer and stalking, I would recommend the 7-08 every time (as a fan of the 7wsm)
 
I've never used a 7mm of any kind. For what it's worth, my choice would be
If short action - 7mm-08
If long action - 7x64
...and yes, I realise the second of those wasn't one of the OP's options.
:)
 
I've just made some enquiries for american brand rifles ruger/savage/browning in new to see whats available,

theres a nice used tikka 590/595 7mm-08 in at dauntseys
I might be selling my 7mm08 begarer barrel fully adjustable stock in laminate green tikka m595 act
So, I have the forms ready to fill out for a variation and am undecided. I have a .243, but want something bigger.
I've considered 30-06, and whilst not ruling it out, I'm thinking of going for a shorter action. I'm undecided between a 7mm-08 and a .284. I reload, so no panic with ammunition availability.
Which one?
I might be selling my 7mm08 begarer barrel fully adjustable stock in laminate green tikka m595 action less than 200 rounds
 
I might be selling my 7mm08 begarer barrel fully adjustable stock in laminate green tikka m595 act

I might be selling my 7mm08 begarer barrel fully adjustable stock in laminate green tikka m595 action less than 200 rounds
Thank you.

I do have a GRS stock, which is going to be used for my .243, which I plan to use for fox and munty/roe. Then the stock from my .243 will be home to the new rifle, which I'm going to ask Mike Norris to make for me.
 
So, I have the forms ready to fill out for a variation and am undecided. I have a .243, but want something bigger.
I've considered 30-06, and whilst not ruling it out, I'm thinking of going for a shorter action. I'm undecided between a 7mm-08 and a .284. I reload, so no panic with ammunition availability.
Which one?
Neither. Taking into account the current constraints on ammunition and components, as well as the move to non-lead ammunition, it's hard to see past a 308 Win.
Regards
JCS
 
The 7-08 I have for sale was built with the potential need for non-lead ammo, but will also quite happily shoot lead too...
 
Neither. Taking into account the current constraints on ammunition and components, as well as the move to non-lead ammunition, it's hard to see past a 308 Win.
Regards
JCS
If that's the case, from what I've seen, recommendation is 20 grains lighter than lead, if using copper. That'll still be ok with a 7mm 08. Or am I missing something?
 
Very much dependent on your police force, I have always been made to apply for a specific cartridge designation by Surrey.
I have 7mm/284 on my FAC and a very reputable dealer has ordered me a 7mm-08 on the strength of it. I'll put a few thousand rounds through before I decided whether or not to have it re-barreled to 284.
I know someone who shoots very accurately with a 24" barreled .284.
I think the 284 was designed to compete with a 270, but with a short action.
 
I think the 284 was designed to compete with a 270, but with a short action.
Yes.

In that Winchester having probably decided they wanted to offer in their lever action Model 88 a cartridge that would compete in ballistic performance with Remington's pump action 760 (and later self loading Model 740) that chambered, amongst other cartridges, .280 Remington and .270 Winchester. The problem for Winchester was that the Model 88 (and later self-loading Model 100) was designed for "short action" cartridges of .308 Winchester length unlike the Remington 760 that was designed for cartridges of full .30/06 length.

So what to do? If you couldn't get longer to get that extra powder in? Then get "fatter". Thus the larger diameter cartridge case of the .284 Winchester. Nowadays with European powders and also double base not available to reloaders in those past times you likely will get the same real world performance anyway with the 7mm-08. But as the 7mm-08 as a "wildcat" wasn't a standardised (ironically by Remington) SAAMI cartridge until 1980 even though it was around back in the day Winchester chose (for whatever reason) not to offer it as a chambering nor to bring out a standardised version.

There are some good videos on You Tube of the Winchester 100 and/or the Remington 740. Worth a watch to see what back in 1988 Mrs Thatcher decided we could no longer be trusted with as British citizens. But as in my earlier post the .284 Winchester was designed to fulfill a specific role. It did that excellently. But had the 7mm-08 and today's powders been standard back in that era of the Model 88 and Model 100 I doubt it would have ever seen the light of day.
 
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I’m not a great fan of the 284 case so I’d say the 7-08 , 280 or 7x64 . Reason being it’s relatively easy if you handload to get brass that can be made into any of those three . The 284 on the other hand is kinda limited to sources for brass .
 
Another vote for 7mm08. Mines a Shultz and Larsen Classic. It shoots factory PPU 140’s very nicely. (Roe and fallow with occasional red deer.) I had a .243 but sold it. The .243 was good but did have occasional odd things happen with bullets changing direction ie in behind shoulder and out through back, turning 90 degrees. The .243 bullets would sometimes not pass through with sorrels. I recovered several bullets lodged under the skin on far shoulder with chest shots but this hasn’t happened with the 7mm08. Straight through both shoulders. A friend has a 6.5x55 and we took turns to shoot that and my 7mm08 and both agreed that recoil was very similar. I’ve never shot a 284 though...
 
I have a 7-08 and its a great calibre, I’ve take up to Kudu with it and 140gn fusions, low meat damage even with muntjac and CWD
 
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