A tale of EV woe.

John Gryphon

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The below arrived in todays mail.

Copied from the Inverness Oran since we can't link to news papers anymore.
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Letter: First-hand EV owner's experience
Last Updated: Tuesday, 27 February 2024 14:53
February 28, 2024
Dear Editor,
I am writing in response to a letter in the February 14th publication entitled, “Benefits of Electric Vehicles.” My husband and I drive a 2021 Long Range Tesla Model 3. My hope is to shed some light on what it is like living in Inverness County with an electric vehicle.
For a bit of context, I am not your run-of-the-mill naysayer. We’ve been driving an EV for the last three years, we are organic farmers, we lived in a fully off-grid, solar powered home for eight years, and we attended that big Greta Thunberg inspired climate change march in Halifax back in 2019. I feel slightly embarrassed about sharing this so publicly because I truly feel that we got duped by clever and persuasive EV/doomsday marketing. After reading Paul Strome’s letter, featuring all those key marketing points, I felt compelled to write in. Here is our electric car experience:
2021 – Rosy new car: Wow! This is great!
– The car was more expensive up front, but it only costs about $14 to “fill the tank” and we can conveniently charge with our Level 2 charger at home whenever we want. That will more than make up for the initial cost over time, considering the price of gas!
– No pesky oil changes and Tesla’s titanium shield under the car means no repairs due to rust! Great – more savings!
– When going to Halifax, we need to recharge at the Enfield Supercharger. Recharging takes 18 minutes, but no big deal: bathroom break, stretch your legs, get a coffee; just minor adjustments to how we drove with a gas car.
Not-so-nice realizations from year one:
– The undulating, electric hum while the car charges for seven hours permeates our entire home and yard. Is that healthy?
– Needing to exit the vehicle for 20 minutes at the Supercharger because it feels very unhealthy to be in such a high voltage environment while it’s charging. Rain, shine, snow or sleet – Everybody out!
– Learning that every time you recharge the battery, the battery life decreases. It actually can damage the battery to charge to 100 per cent and it is advised that you don’t charge more than 80 per cent for day-to-day use.
2022 – One-year-old car:
– Can still make it to Sydney and back, but we shouldn’t make many detours if we want to make it home again. Having to stop in Baddeck for two hours to “juice up” just to make the 40-minute journey home doesn’t make much sense...
– Can still make it to the Enfield Supercharger when going to Halifax, but no detours. Stick to the highway or else.
Christmas 2023 – 2.5-year-old car:
Heading to the Valley Christmas Eve (outside temperature is -5oC).
– “I don’t think we’re going to make it to the Supercharger...” “What the heck! We’re definitely not going to make it!” The whole family, plus two dogs, wandered around Truro for 1.5 hours, in the cold twilight while charging just enough to make it to the Enfield Supercharger.
– With everyone’s spirits low, we wander around the Enfield Big Stop parking lot in the cold while the car charges for 35 minutes. Can’t bring the dogs into Timmy’s and staying in the car while it’s charging feels like every hair on your body is getting charged up too.
– Charge up again at the New Minas Supercharger, just in case, because the wall plug at Grandma’s takes days to charge the car and we can’t believe how poorly the car is performing.
Coming home after Christmas:
– Leave Middleton. Stop at the Supercharger in New Minas for 10 minutes to add some charge. Everyone out into the cold!
– Leave New Minas. Stop in Enfield to fully recharge for 35 minutes. Everybody out into the cold: Kids, dogs; everyone. It’s windy and half raining/half snowing. How wonderfully modern and convenient it is to drive an EV!
– Make it back home with six per cent. Phew!
January 2024 – 2.5-year-old car:
– 10oC, but dropping, so range is dropping too.
– Husband arrives at Enfield Supercharger. Relief!
– Enfield supercharger is down. Neither the car nor Telsa phone app notified him; 9:00 p.m. on a Sunday. No indication of when/if the charger will turn on again. Car is at three per cent. Not enough power to keep the heat on, let alone drive to a motel. Other EV drivers there are all cursing their cars and their decisions...
– After an hour of being stranded, the chargers come online again.
– 60 minutes to recharge after going so low and it being so cold out. Two hours, stuck at the Enfield Big Stop!
February 2024 (last week) – 2.5-year-old car
– We are driving home from the airport. I’m driving my 2012 Toyota Matrix (680 km/tank). I have to go pick up the dogs from the boarder, just outside Antigonish. It’s too big of a detour for the “Long Range” Tesla to handle.
– Even with that detour, I make it home first. The Tesla took 60 minutes to charge in Enfield. It takes longer to charge a cold battery, but surely they should be home by now...
– My husband finally made it home. He crawled home, with the heat turned off, because he was trying to conserve power. Made it home with six per cent.
We’ve looked into it: There is nothing wrong with our car. This is just the natural diminishing of an EV battery over time, combined with fairly mild NS winter driving.
This is what range anxiety looks like! It is not, as Paul Strome so kindly put it, “for those drivers who have trouble paying attention to their fuel gauge.” Range anxiety means constantly paying attention to your fuel gauge and crossing your fingers and toes, hoping you’re going to make it! It’s leaving home with a “full tank” to go 290 km and worrying about not arriving!
The February 14th letter features all of the dealership, government, and activist talking points. None of it is based on the real life experience of a rural EV owner. The “official range” of EVs is not based in reality. Only on the first day out of the factory (if it’s sunny, with no wind, temps between 15-20oC, on a straight stretch road with no hills) would our car ever live up to its range expectations.
Speaking as a former climate change activist and current EV driver, I can only see EVs working if you live in a big city and never plan on leaving that big city. The last thing we should be pushing for is to phase out internal combustion engine vehicles by 2035 in Canada. Yes, we absolutely have to take better care of our planet, but EVs make zero sense in the real world.
Hilary Mueller
Mabou
 
Hilary sounds like a tool. Why buy something that doesn’t fit your lifestyle then moan about it.

But calling bs on this due to the glaring crap that’s being harped on about.
 
Hilary sounds like a tool. Why buy something that doesn’t fit your lifestyle then moan about it.

But calling bs on this due to the glaring crap that’s being harped on about.
I have no idea but similar tales are in the news here also with the long distance travel times needed.
 
I have no idea but similar tales are in the news here also with the long distance travel times needed.

Yes but my point is who the @@@@ buys an EV when you live in a country that vast and expect it to do a job of an ice and then moan about it when it doesn’t. That’s next level stupidity they shouldn’t even be allowed on the roads in anything but a push bike.
 
Yes but my point is who the @@@@ buys an EV when you live in a country that vast and expect it to do a job of an ice and then moan about it when it doesn’t. That’s next level stupidity they shouldn’t even be allowed on the roads in anything but a push bike.
Ah there are many that do and have been sucked in by the disinformation as usual.

I suspect that a lot of EV people eat a lot of lettuce too.
 
Yes but my point is who the @@@@ buys an EV when you live in a country that vast and expect it to do a job of an ice and then moan about it when it doesn’t. That’s next level stupidity they shouldn’t even be allowed on the roads in anything but a push bike.
Short answer is lots of people, and not just in rural areas.
People who bought into the idea and believed the manufacturer’s claims.
EV’ s lead the pack when it comes to losing resale value and being returned/ traded back within 12 months.
They also suffer from software issues which are often impossible to fix.
Which may be why some of the big manufacturers are stepping back from further development of Ev’s.
 
I had a small EV for work over the last 3 years. seat Mii.
for my daily run about 60 to 80 miles on average, it was fine,
If we went further on an evening we used her freelander, or the diesel estate,
charging at home costs 1p per mile or free on our solar panels,
when the lease ended I bought it for her to run about in,
like you wouldnt use a MX5 for deer stalking work, nobody in their right mind would use an EV for long regular trips,
 
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Got an EV. Also owner of a pick up and Skoda fabia.

17 year old daughter won’t be learning to drive in the pickup (she’d have been up for that though 😄). Tootling about in the 1.2 litre granny cart for her.

Likewise won’t take the ev into a field with mental lab in the back.

Majority of my driving though is the ev, which is does cheaply, well and puts a smile on your face. Best car I’ve ever bought. Always warm when I get in it in winter too.

But horses for courses. Won’t suit everyone. And some are rubbish, like any cars.
 
Got an EV. Also owner of a pick up and Skoda fabia.

17 year old daughter won’t be learning to drive in the pickup (she’d have been up for that though 😄). Tootling about in the 1.2 litre granny cart for her.

Likewise won’t take the ev into a field with mental lab in the back.

Majority of my driving though is the ev, which is does cheaply, well and puts a smile on your face. Best car I’ve ever bought. Always warm when I get in it in winter too.

But horses for courses. Won’t suit everyone. And some are rubbish, like any cars.

I just ordered a new Tesla model y before they change the model. Seriously cheap car especially as it’s going through the business. Absolutely did not want two evs in the house but the accountant basically forced me on the basis of cost/tax alone.

Still got a years free charging thrown in so not all bad. Can’t wait to throw a couple of reds in the back 😂
 
I just ordered a new Tesla model y before they change the model. Seriously cheap car especially as it’s going through the business. Absolutely did not want two evs in the house but the accountant basically forced me on the basis of cost/tax alone.

Still got a years free charging thrown in so not all bad. Can’t wait to throw a couple of reds in the back 😂
Can you park it 100yds away from your home?
 
I got an EV on a business lease three and a half years ago. Living in London there are plenty of public chargers everywhere. Even drove it to Switzerland and back last year. No problems with either range or charging.

Last month it developed a fault, diagnoses as a battery issue. The manufacturer (Hyundai) were brilliant and gave me a 24-plate EV as a loan car, to keep for however long it takes them to fix my own car. Well done Hyundai for excellent customer service.

However... the lesson is that I would not want to own an EVs that's not covered by manufacturer's warranty. Luckily most EV manufacturers do provide long warranties - in the case of Hyundai it's 8 years for the battery, and 5 years for anything else - but I would not buy privately a second hand EV unless it still had plenty of manufacturer's warranty left under its belt. Personal opinion...
 
As for Greta.... personally I think her parents should face child abuse charges, but that's a separate issue. EVs won't save the planet, the only thing that will help the environment is if we all owned less cars, and drove then less. The majority of the UK's population lives in urban areas where public transport is available. Want to help save the planet? Leave the car at home and take the bus or train. Leave the driving for when traveling away from towns and cities, and for those living in the countryside and rural areas.
 
As for Greta.... personally I think her parents should face child abuse charges, but that's a separate issue. EVs won't save the planet, the only thing that will help the environment is if we all owned less cars, and drove then less. The majority of the UK's population lives in urban areas where public transport is available. Want to help save the planet? Leave the car at home and take the bus or train. Leave the driving for when traveling away from towns and cities, and for those living in the countryside and rural areas.
I agree with your first statement on Greta’s parents, they should be in jail.

On using vehicles less - I would say that won’t save the planet, what we should do is focus on the real polluters, and that’s not the U.K., the fashion trade in Asia and the waste disposal in Africa or the Middle East - we are not even a drop in the ocean compared to these.

Also stop the false narrative that biomass plants and heat source pumps are the future - they simply are not.

Regards,
Gixer
 
Wouldn't it be nice if our grubberment left a lasting legacy of a FREE electric tram system for folks to use in every city in the UK, no need for many cars/vans to enter them then... folks would soon catch on...
 
Greta's publicist lives in the exclusive beachside community of Ljungskogen in southern Sweden,100m back from the beach,elevation 3 meters above sea level. I visit the area frequently.
 
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