A wee rant

There, fixed that for you.
Child abuse is not agreeable to most sane people, 17 is not an adult and this activity is illegal for a good reason.
I recommend anyone that finds the above disagreeable to seek professional help immediately.
Please don’t misquote me to suit yourself.
And 17 is an adult whether you like it or not. And what is illegal ? Lying to a website that you’re 18 ?
We are speculating here but regardless of that if the chap had had sex with the 17 yr old there would be no issue. It’s perfectly legal.
I think anyone who finds that disagreeable moves to a country with a higher age of consent.
 
I would like to know why, if I were to not watch any BBC content do I still have to pay for the tv licence in order for me to watch live tv.
Who else gets a proportion of the fee and what for?
Prior to any answers I would suggest the 'live tv' element of the rules be removed and leave it to TV viewers to decide if they want to watch BBC content and pay the licence fee or to block BBC content some way if need be, if not.
 
I would like to know why, if I were to not watch any BBC content do I still have to pay for the tv licence in order for me to watch live tv.
Who else gets a proportion of the fee and what for?
Prior to any answers I would suggest the 'live tv' element of the rules be removed and leave it to TV viewers to decide if they want to watch BBC content and pay the licence fee or to block BBC content some way if need be, if not.
Exactly. Turn it into a subscription service. The BBC is trying to hold out until there's a Labour government, when it will be protected, otherwise it would be certain to become a subscription service within the next few years.
I refuse to pay a TV licence and in return, I don't watch any BBC content. The joke is, a great deal of BBC content can be watched already without going anywhere near BBC channels because the corporation sells programmes all round the world and these programmes turn up again on free to view digital channels. So viewers in other countries can watch these for free but we are expected to pay a statutory fee to watch something that the BBC has already sold at a fat profit. It's a complete farce.

Until recently I reluctantly paid the licence fee because of BBC radio, but that cause no longer holds water. I detest commercial radio because of the inane and intrusive adverts but I'd rather not listen to anything at all now. Radio 1 seems aimed exclusively at under 16s. Radio 2 has sacked its best presenters and turned itself into a retirement home for washed up daytime TV luvvies. Radio 3's output is becoming more and more obscure - soon no doubt it will be playing exclusively music written by black women. And radio 4 has become the home of woke. The only chat show presenter I enjoyed listening to on R4 was Richard Coles on Saturday morning, because he was intelligent and thoughtful, and that rare thing for a BBC presenter - a good listener who displayed no political side. But they got rid of him. Presumable a gay white vicar just wasn't cutting edge any more.
It's a shame as there are still a smattering of interesting science , history and natural history programmes on R4, but two or three half hour radio prorammes a week are no longer enough to justify paying the fee.
 
Exactly. Turn it into a subscription service. The BBC is trying to hold out until there's a Labour government, when it will be protected, otherwise it would be certain to become a subscription service within the next few years.
I refuse to pay a TV licence and in return, I don't watch any BBC content. The joke is, a great deal of BBC content can be watched already without going anywhere near BBC channels because the corporation sells programmes all round the world and these programmes turn up again on free to view digital channels. So viewers in other countries can watch these for free but we are expected to pay a statutory fee to watch something that the BBC has already sold at a fat profit. It's a complete farce.

Until recently I reluctantly paid the licence fee because of BBC radio, but that cause no longer holds water. I detest commercial radio because of the inane and intrusive adverts but I'd rather not listen to anything at all now. Radio 1 seems aimed exclusively at under 16s. Radio 2 has sacked its best presenters and turned itself into a retirement home for washed up daytime TV luvvies. Radio 3's output is becoming more and more obscure - soon no doubt it will be playing exclusively music written by black women. And radio 4 has become the home of woke. The only chat show presenter I enjoyed listening to on R4 was Richard Coles on Saturday morning, because he was intelligent and thoughtful, and that rare thing for a BBC presenter - a good listener who displayed no political side. But they got rid of him. Presumable a gay white vicar just wasn't cutting edge any more.
It's a shame as there are still a smattering of interesting science , history and natural history programmes on R4, but two or three half hour radio prorammes a week are no longer enough to justify paying the fee.

Why were you paying a licence fee for the radio, you dont need one. Were you just chipping in voluntarily?
 
Im 38 now, dont think I've had a TV licence for 20yrs.

I think there was a brief spell at 17/18 when I had Sky for 6months. Since then its been downloads, streaming and youtube.

What would I watch on tv live....
Sport....nah
Royal stuff....nah
Glasto....nah
 
Why were you paying a licence fee for the radio, you dont need one. Were you just chipping in voluntarily?
The license fee also pays for BBC radio. It was in essence a freebie thrown in with the TV licence, as listening to the radio cannot be policed in the same way as watching a television - though watching a screen can't be policed nowadays either.
For a while I begrudgingly accepted paying the licence to maintain ad-free radio (no one has yet come up with a way to fund non-commercial radio if the licence fee is abolished and there aren't enough paying subscribers to cover it). But no longer. For the reasons given above, I don't think BBC radio is any longer worth saving.
And as for the world service, if the rest of the world wants to listen to a global British radio station, let the rest of the world pay for it themselves, not cadge off those people in Britain who happen to own a television set.
 
The license fee also pays for BBC radio. It was in essence a freebie thrown in with the TV licence, as listening to the radio cannot be policed in the same way as watching a television - though watching a screen can't be policed nowadays either.
For a while I begrudgingly accepted paying the licence to maintain ad-free radio (no one has yet come up with a way to fund non-commercial radio if the licence fee is abolished and there aren't enough paying subscribers to cover it). But no longer. For the reasons given above, I don't think BBC radio is any longer worth saving.

It does fund it but you were never obligated to have a licence for it.

The BBC is dead, not that they'll admit it and give up but the licence fee should be abolished. Not fit for purpose in the modern age of choice.
 
It does fund it but you were never obligated to have a licence for it.

The BBC is dead, not that they'll admit it and give up but the licence fee should be abolished. Not fit for purpose in the modern age of choice.

I understand that. As I say, you can't police listening to the radio so it cannot be licensed and it is not. But if the licence fee goes, so probably will ad-free BBC radio.
At one point I thought the bonus of free radio that came with TV licensing was worth the licence fee even if the TV output did not justify it. But I don't think that any longer. Not least because you can scarcely call BBC radio ad-free any more, since the corporation spends nearly as much air time promoting itself as commercial stations do airing ads for paying clients.
 
I understand that. As I say, you can't police listening to the radio so it cannot be licensed and is not. But if the licence fee goes, so probably will ad-free BBC radio.
At one point I thought the bonus of free radio that came with TV licensing was worth the licence fee even if the TV output did not justify it. But I don't think that any longer. Not least because you can scarcely call BBC radio ad-free any more, since the corporation spends nearly as much radio air time promoting itself as commercial stations do airing ads for paying clients.

Yeah, I get ya.

Used to listen to R4 quite a bit a while back but the last few years it's just a wash with wet wipes. Just complete mushy nonsense.

R1 has never appealed even when I was younger (preferred Kerrang/Planet Rock) R2 had sounds of the 70s thats about it, cant stand Vine, Whiley, Paige, Dermot etc..

I have R6 on for 10mins once in a blue moon.
 
I wouldnt mind hearing Wogan do the old Janet & John stories again though.

Christ they were funny. I'll have to dig them out.
 
Yeah, I get ya.

Used to listen to R4 quite a bit a while back but the last few years it's just a wash with wet wipes. Just complete mushy nonsense.

R1 has never appealed even when I was younger (preferred Kerrang/Planet Rock) R2 had sounds of the 70s thats about it, cant stand Vine, Whiley, Page, Dermot etc..

I have R6 on for 10mins once in a blue moon.
I occasionally listen to some of the better R4 programmes of the sort I mentioned above, when driving. But they're invariably followed by infuriating drivel, and then I reach for the off switch.
R2 I very rarely listen to. I might flick it on in the car and listen to the end of a song if it's one I like, but once whichever unfunny salaried motor-mouth is presenting at the time chimes in (usually cutting the song short) I switch off again.
I used to listen to R1 in the good old days of Mark and Lard and Steve Wright in the afternoon ("Hello! It's me again from Purley and I'm really angry!") but that died a death years ago. The Mark and Lard show would never get past the BBC's woke censors today.

 
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I stopped paying my BBC license a couple of years ago.

Do not engage with them.

I only ever use my TV for watching Netflix and YouTube (😇).
My understanding is as long as you declare that you do not watch live TV, you do not need to pay the license fee? I.e., you can still use the TV for VOD streaming such as Netflix or Amazon Prime etc. I know people who do that.

Obviously, if you want to watch other live TV channels (e.g. ITV), just not the BBC, then this won't work.
Just renewed my DDR, so had the chance to read the T&Cs. ;)

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I'll chip back in. I love BBC 6Music dearly, such a great selection of music, I'd be a bit lost without it on a daily basis. I'm unsure what monetary value I'd place on it if I had to. But I very much grudge funding a whole plethora of other biased falsehoods perpetuated by the BBC. Time for it all to be split up and funded separately.
 
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