aaaaw daaah!!!!!

[User00035]

I note you've been on here 2 year longer than I have. Since I joined in 2014 I've seen all the threads and comments I need that lead me to my conclusion and my opinion. I used to try and pull in the opposite direction but grew tired of the poison PM's. Frankly, if you've not seen the tonal shift and sometimes (blatant) lack of common decency (displayed by those right of the moderate right) then you must've been living under a fekkin' rock.

You can 'hand wring' 'dog whistle' 'wishy washy' 'snowflake' me all you like, fill your boots - I won't alter from what prefer as a calm and objective outlook.

For the record, I am no fan of the BBC of late either - I find their rather 'bipolar' sycophantic / biased output unpleasant at the best of times.

You may wish to test my theory but starting some more threads about John Bercow, or maybe Gina Miller, or George Soros, for example?

You still haven't explained why abusive PMs, a "lack of common decency" or pillorying Gina Miller, Bercow, Soros or anyone else automatically identifies someone as right wing. Or indeed what right wing really means. As far as I can see it's just a trope wheeled out to traduce anyone with the "wrong" views. How they articulate those views, with regards to good manners and moderate language, may reflect well or badly on that individual person's character but it is not an indicator one way or the other of their political leaning.

 

[Hereford]

You still haven't explained why abusive PMs, a "lack of common decency" or pillorying Gina Miller, Bercow, Soros or anyone else automatically identifies someone as right wing. Or indeed what right wing really means. As far as I can see it's just a trope wheeled out to traduce anyone with the "wrong" views. How they articulate those views, with regards to good manners and moderate language, may reflect well or badly on that individual person's character but it is not an indicator one way or the other of their political leaning.

No worries - I was just trying to keep it simple for everyone

 

[8x57]

I don't think right wing and left wing is any longer the defining factor in politics. It's no longer primarily about economics. For a while now, there also been an authoritarian/liberal (I know, difficult term, means different things to different people) axis to it. Now the fracture, in the UK, the US, France, Italy, Germany, even Tunisia is along cultural fault lines. I mean, hard brexiteers from the conservative side are now mostly indistinguishable from Brexit Party voters and Brexit voting Labour supporters. And centrist Tories and labour voters have more in common with the Lib Dems and Greens that they do with they (former) parties. Both traditional right and left have been shrunken down to the most extreme form of themselves (Corbyn et al are just as responsible for the current mess as the Tories). The political landscape is reforming itself, it's exactly like an earthquake. The tectonic stresses build up and up until the crust breaks, and then settles in a different configuration.

That's what we're in the middle of. The next general election is going to be fascinating.

Brexit shouldn't come into it Pine Marten. The obnoxious little man has simply failed in his duties to remain neutral and to ensure that all debates are conducted in a civilised and orderly manner thereby bringing his office into disrepute.

 

[reloader54]

I don't think right wing and left wing is any longer the defining factor in politics. It's no longer primarily about economics. For a while now, there also been an authoritarian/liberal (I know, difficult term, means different things to different people) axis to it. Now the fracture, in the UK, the US, France, Italy, Germany, even Tunisia is along cultural fault lines. I mean, hard brexiteers from the conservative side are now mostly indistinguishable from Brexit Party voters and Brexit voting Labour supporters. And centrist Tories and labour voters have more in common with the Lib Dems and Greens that they do with they (former) parties. Both traditional right and left have been shrunken down to the most extreme form of themselves (Corbyn et al are just as responsible for the current mess as the Tories). The political landscape is reforming itself, it's exactly like an earthquake. The tectonic stresses build up and up until the crust breaks, and then settles in a different configuration.

That's what we're in the middle of. The next general election is going to be fascinating.

"hey, there's a man at your door with a package",
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"Too late ya missed him again" ,,

 

[kes]

For any right thinking person, he's a jumped up little pric (does that have a 'k' on there).
N.B. 'Right', as in 'correct' in this context and just in case its misinterpreted.

Woooooo Hooooooooooooo

He isnt big enough to control his wife.


Sally Bercow, 49, is a British public personality and the wife of the House of Commons Speaker, John Bercow, 56.

She was born in Sutton on 22 November, 1969, as Sally Kate Illman.


She attended the independent co-educational King Edward's School in Witley, Surrey.

Bercow also attended Keble College, Oxford, dropping out after two years.

While her husband became a Conservative Party MP in 1997, she campaigned for New Labour and their candidate Tony Blair, as well as helping him get his seat.

At the 2010 election, she campaigned for the election of Ed Balls as the leader of the Labour Party, before attempting to stand as a Labour candidate for the St James's Ward of Westminster City Council.


Sally has appeared on our TV screens in 2011, where she entered the Big Brother House as a housemate and was the first person to be evicted.

Her on-screen appearances didn't end there; she also took part in a celebrity edition of The Chase and Big Star's Little Star, with her daughter Jemima.

 

[bogtrotter]

Possibly of Celtic extract see "British people"

Hey you!

 

[Pine Marten]

Woooooo Hooooooooooooo

He isnt big enough to control his wife.

Because controlling one's wife makes one a Big Man, does it?

 

[reloader54]

Because controlling one's wife makes one a Big Man, does it?

hi pine martin did you manage to get yours to answer the door to the couriers yet?

 

[kes]

Because controlling one's wife makes one a Big Man, does it?

Oh dear we do have a problem dont we.
I simply meant his wife votes labour - no stiff arm tactics there I'm afraid.
You keep looking for holes though.

 

[dartmoordog]

Obnoxious little turd........Now that is simple.

 

[User00035]

Serious case of small man syndrome. Puffed up and gobby like a cock bantam. I hope Lindsay Hoyle succeeds him. He's the only decent one of a dismal bunch, but I expect we'll get the odious Harperson.