Adding pork fat to burgers.

cjs66

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I've got some pork fat to add to my roe burgers but, it's been frozen. Does this mean the burgers can't be refrozen or will they be ok?

Ta.

cjs
 
Just muntjac in my burgers they go down so well I had to convert a full muntjac into burgers at the end of last season as I had steaks and other cuts in the freezer already. That was at the end of April and I am all out at the moment. I am out this week so will be restocking hopefully.
 
I've got some pork fat to add to my roe burgers but, it's been frozen. Does this mean the burgers can't be refrozen or will they be ok?

Ta.

cjs
Hi, I asked that very same question to the chef giving a demonstration at the shooting show as I had made a batch of sausages with thawed out fat. He said you could re freeze but not advisable , the only safe way was to cook the sausages a then freeze, making sure when you reheated they were piping hot right through. As we had already made 120 this is what we did. Not sure if he was just being really safe to cover himself. Hope this helps a bit
Cheers
Nick
 
Hi, I asked that very same question to the chef giving a demonstration at the shooting show as I had made a batch of sausages with thawed out fat. He said you could re freeze but not advisable , the only safe way was to cook the sausages a then freeze, making sure when you reheated they were piping hot right through. As we had already made 120 this is what we did. Not sure if he was just being really safe to cover himself. Hope this helps a bit
Cheers
Nick
It's not quite that simple.
I've looked into it recently.
If it's for your own consumption then it matters not one jot.
If producing for sale, you can do one thaw in a production cycle and still sell the product either frozen or suitable for home freezing. But it does depend on what stage of the production cycle it occurs. For example, you can't freeze mince, thaw it, make burgers and then refreeze (unless for home consumption only), but you can freeze meat, thaw it, mince it, make burgers and then refreeze for sale.
If you're buying in a product such as pork fat you don't know of there's already been a thaw before you got it, so that would be higher risk. Not a problem with your own meat.
 
It's not quite that simple.
I've looked into it recently.
If it's for your own consumption then it matters not one jot.
If producing for sale, you can do one thaw in a production cycle and still sell the product either frozen or suitable for home freezing. But it does depend on what stage of the production cycle it occurs. For example, you can't freeze mince, thaw it, make burgers and then refreeze (unless for home consumption only), but you can freeze meat, thaw it, mince it, make burgers and then refreeze for sale.
If you're buying in a product such as pork fat you don't know of there's already been a thaw before you got it, so that would be higher risk. Not a problem with your own meat.
For me its not about the law, its about eating food that doesn't put me on the toilet for a week 🤑
 
For me its not about the law, its about eating food that doesn't put me on the toilet for a week 🤑
It won't.
Meat is far more resilient than most people realise.
Provided you keep everything cold during production (as you should do anyway, regardless) it will be absolutely fine. You're worrying needlessly.
I recently made some burgers using carcass trim that had been in the freezer for 3 years, and then refroze the burgers. No issues whatsoever.
Just don't sell them.
 
For me its not about the law, its about eating food that doesn't put me on the toilet for a week 🤑
If you are adding pork you ndeed to cook to a safe internal temp, over 70 celsious i think, but double check. You wont get sick if the meat was kept cold and handled safely.
Ive done it loads with venison sausages and never an issue
 
It's not quite that simple.
I've looked into it recently.
If it's for your own consumption then it matters not one jot.
If producing for sale, you can do one thaw in a production cycle and still sell the product either frozen or suitable for home freezing. But it does depend on what stage of the production cycle it occurs. For example, you can't freeze mince, thaw it, make burgers and then refreeze (unless for home consumption only), but you can freeze meat, thaw it, mince it, make burgers and then refreeze for sale.
If you're buying in a product such as pork fat you don't know of there's already been a thaw before you got it, so that would be higher risk. Not a problem with your own meat.
Hi, is there a source I can refer to reference re-freezing? I do exactly this freezing down my trim and then making sausages in bulk, but I'd like to document the process in my HACCP.

Many thanks
 
Hi, is there a source I can refer to reference re-freezing? I do exactly this freezing down my trim and then making sausages in bulk, but I'd like to document the process in my HACCP.

Many thanks
I've got a link to it saved somewhere.
When my IT technician gets home I'll ask her to ferret it out so I can post it.
 
I use 20% fatty boar trim in my venison burgers and sausage thats my taste . I do like just a salt pepper venison smash burger with left over mince when bagging up .
 
I know adding fat to ground venison helps with holding burgers together but it defeats the purpose of eating venison. Why take a lean, healthy, great tasting ground meat and then add fat to it? I do believe venison sausage needs a bit of fat, though. Just my opinion.
 
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