Albino/melanistic deer

[levigsp]

Stunning. Were they taken off the same ground and if so, how many years apart?

I stalked an estate in Galloway where I identified a pair of roe kids showing skewbald markings, the doe more so than the buck. Unfortunately the estate changed hands the following spring and so I didn't get the opportunity to see them mature (assuming they'd have stayed local after kick out time).

Novice

So they were twins, so yes of the same ground.

 

[Alantoo]

You mean internet fora surely?

Q.E.D.

Where would internet fora be without pedantry eh?

Alan

 

[Wildlife Watcher]

https://www.exchangehunt.com/images/upload/original/3111-DSC04271.JPG

Check out this black buck. An interesting write up about different coloured roe and the visit to Germany too!

 

[Wildlife Watcher]

Yes inbreeding is what cause colour mutation in all animals. A pied is as people have said white patches on a coloured background.View attachment 122833

These are beautiful!

 

[foxdropper]

Stolen off the net
Reports are of an albino but it’s leucistic according to the eyes I think .

 

[levigsp]

How about these.

 

[Hunt-Inter]

 

[Wildlife Watcher]

I've been trying to get this guy on camera for months! Partly why I started this thread to see if anyone else had pics of black deer or had seen them.

 

[novice]

I've been trying to get this guy on camera for months! Partly why I started this thread to see if anyone else had pics of black deer or had seen them.View attachment 126447

Was that pic taken up in the highlands then? If so, a fantastic rarity. Hopefully he'll survive long enough to keep passing on his genes, with the black colouration being dominant. That would be interesting. Looks like he's lived a bit longer than a lot of the german melanistic deer you see on the deck. Most of those barely seem to have lived beyond 2 or 3 years.

Novice

 

[Wildlife Watcher]

Was that pic taken up in the highlands then? If so, a fantastic rarity. Hopefully he'll survive long enough to keep passing on his genes, with the black colouration being dominant. That would be interesting. Looks like he's lived a bit longer than a lot of the german melanistic deer you see on the deck. Most of those barely seem to have lived beyond 2 or 3 years.

Novice

Yeah. I've not heard of ones in Scotland but seen the pictures from Germany. How do you know the black colour is dominant? He was around last year too and lost an antler, don't know whether it was fighting or whether there's some hormonal difference making his antlers weaker. Don't know exactly how old he is.

 

[novice]

Reading my post back again, I can see how I wasn't clear. What I was saying is I hope the black gene is dominant. Can see a bit of a gold rush to track him down though. Hope he's on favourable ground.

 

[novice]

Looking at your pic again, his coronets appear quite uneven, so perhaps he had an injury when he was in antler last year which accounts for the temporary loss. Might have damaged the coronet too.

Novice

 

[Wildlife Watcher]

Looking at your pic again, his coronets appear quite uneven, so perhaps he had an injury when he was in antler last year which accounts for the temporary loss. Might have damaged the coronet too.

Novice

Makes sense as the coronets do look a bit strange. His left one is just 2 points I think.

 

[levigsp]

There, was a time when I saw them, blacks, at the side of the A9 in the cairngorms south of Aviemore between 1987 and 1991. In most of Europe they are classed the same as any other mutant, something to be eradicated.

 

[Foxlover]

Seen a white red calf once during the off season. , never saw it again tho .

 

[VSS]

Reading my post back again, I can see how I wasn't clear. What I was saying is I hope the black gene is dominant. Can see a bit of a gold rush to track him down though. Hope he's on favourable ground.

Black is a ressesive gene. So the animal in the pic is homozygous ressesive for coat colour, which is why it is expressed. If he mates with normal coloured females his offspring will be normal coloured, unless any of the females he mates with carry the ressesive gene, in which case there would be 50:50 chance of the offspring being black. Any offspring that were normal colour would contain a ressesive gene, so could themselves produce black offspring.
If he were to mate with a black female then all of the offspring would be black.

 

[chrisbird]

Ive seen two completely white red deer. Not sure if they were albino but they were snow white