Another reloading what to buy thread

Mattv

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I’m looking for some wisdom in case I’m making a mistake and waste a load of money on something I don’t/do need.
I’ve read read though the various pages on here, read the Hornady reloading book a couple of times, understand the processes and as an engineer by education I am capable of the task!
I currently fire around 500-1000 rounds a year shared between my .223rem and .243win and although I’m happy with factory rounds (usually Hornady superformance vmax in both rifles), I’m not so keen on the constant price rises and lack of availability. I’m currently paying around £170 for x100 .243 and £150 for x100 .223 ammo, and have worked out I can cut this to about £90, and £70 retrospectively by reloading and have the convenience to make it as I need it rather than ordering and waiting around 6 months for the factory ammo to come into stock.
I have always gone on the theory of buy once cry once so I’d like to get some decent tooling to start with;
1. I like the look of the RCBS rockchucker supreme kit, and although I know buying a kit rather than individual parts won’t get the best of what’s available, it’s a good price for a lot of kit and not a lot more than just buying the press itself.
2. I know I want full length resizing dies but unsure on which brand to go for.
3. Will probably get some digital scales as that’s easier and quicker for me to see than the beam scales that come with the RCBS kit.
4. Case trimming wise I’m a bit unsure on what to go for.
5. Case cleaning, I’ll probably look out for a second hand unit somewhere although unsure if I even need it due to….no 6.
6. I’ve worked out costings based on buying brass and reloading 4 times before binning, so won’t worry about annealing etc, maybe wasteful but I don’t want the extra hassle and expense to save £20/100 brass.

Have I missed anything/what’s the general consensus on this?
 
If I was starting fresh I’d probably buy a Lee 4 hole classic turret press.
Makes loading so much easy

I use a rcbs partner press and a Lee 4 hole
 
Sounds like you have done a decent bit of research.

Get the Hornady headspace and bullet seating comparators and a decent set of digital vernier calipers so you can adjust your dies to shoulder bump and adjust seating depth.
+1 on this too.

I bought a cheap Lee press and a set of their quick trim dies. It just gets used for trimming and as there is no force/flex issues with the trimming process (if there is something is very wrong!) i'm not worried about rigidity.
 

Interesting review of home loading v factory ammo in above article.

Unfortunately, you would be coming into reloading at a bad time as supplies of primers are virtually non-existent and are expected to be so until 2024. Supplies of bullets too are very poor and have been for a few years. None of this is expected to change anytime soon due to the voracious demand in the US and the war in the east.

If you do decide to go ahead and start reloading, it becomes another hobby in its own right, and for me, is something else shooting-related that I can do at home. I am just a target shooter and can definitely make ammunition that suits my firearms which is a good result.
 

Interesting review of home loading v factory ammo in above article.

Unfortunately, you would be coming into reloading at a bad time as supplies of primers are virtually non-existent and are expected to be so until 2024. Supplies of bullets too are very poor and have been for a few years. None of this is expected to change anytime soon due to the voracious demand in the US and the war in the east.

If you do decide to go ahead and start reloading, it becomes another hobby in its own right, and for me, is something else shooting-related that I can do at home. I am just a target shooter and can definitely make ammunition that suits my firearms which is a good result.
What he said 👍
 
I bought the rockchucker supreme kit and although there are a few items in there that aren’t essential, the kit price means that you still get the essentials a lot cheaper than if you bought individually.
I use the beam scales included but, being very handy, I made an excellent trickler from bits in the workshop, it has proved invaluable.

The biggest problem you will face is sourcing large rifle primers for the .243.

PS the press is superb.
 

Interesting review of home loading v factory ammo in above article.

Unfortunately, you would be coming into reloading at a bad time as supplies of primers are virtually non-existent and are expected to be so until 2024. Supplies of bullets too are very poor and have been for a few years. None of this is expected to change anytime soon due to the voracious demand in the US and the war in the east.

If you do decide to go ahead and start reloading, it becomes another hobby in its own right, and for me, is something else shooting-related that I can do at home. I am just a target shooter and can definitely make ammunition that suits my firearms which is a good result.
Yes I’ve read that before, however the factory rounds of £81 per 100 they compare too is about £90 cheaper per 100 than the factory ammo I use. I am currently spending between £1500-£2k a year on factory ammo. Its not just the cost it’s the convenience as well, I’m lucky that my job means I can reload during ‘work time’ and I currently have to order 200 .223 and 200 .243 at a time (as that’s all my fac will allow) from my local gun shop which can take up to 6 months to arrive unless I drive half way round the country picking up a box here and there.
 
I bought the rockchucker supreme kit and although there are a few items in there that aren’t essential, the kit price means that you still get the essentials a lot cheaper than if you bought individually.
I use the beam scales included but, being very handy, I made an excellent trickler from bits in the workshop, it has proved invaluable.

The biggest problem you will face is sourcing large rifle primers for the .243.

PS the press is superb.
Thanks for that, a bit of reassurance! I’m not as worried about the .243 as I have quite a few rounds in stock as I’ve just had 200 come in. My .223 is what’s eating through bullets at the moment and I am really struggling to get any factory ammo of any quantity. 5 boxes of different brands/weights is about all my gunshop can supply me at the moment at any time which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot and I’m spending time checking zeros and wasting valuable ammo!
 
If doing multi calibre, and on a single stage press, you will find it convenient to have something like the breech lock system or the similar Hornady lock-n-load quick change system.

This allows you to quickly change dies, even between calibres with
peace of mind.

You can use either on a rock chucker - lee kit comes with the breech lock system by default.
 
If doing multi calibre, and on a single stage press, you will find it convenient to have something like the breech lock system or the similar Hornady lock-n-load quick change system.

This allows you to quickly change dies, even between calibres with
peace of mind.

You can use either on a rock chucker - lee kit comes with the breech lock system by default.
This is good advice. I have the Lee Classic Cast press and Forster dies so I can set each die for sizing or seating for my usual bullets in it's own breech lock bushing by locking the lock ring on the die so when I swap between sizing, seating or calibres I just put the bushing with the die locked into it into the press and it's in the same position as it was last time I used it. Saves a lot of faffing about.
 
Get a book on reloading, like the Lee, and read it. Then decide what equipment suits your needs -whether is be Lee equipment or not. Load simple, basic ammunition. Shoot alot. Enjoy. ~Muir
I’ve got the Hornady book and read it a couple of times. It’s easy reading one manufacturers book and going with them, I could buy all Hornady stuff, but I think it’s wiser to see what other people have used and see what flaws/ideas they have to make a more informed decision. i don’t want to end up buying a load of kit that I end up selling in a years time wishing I’d bought something else
 
If doing multi calibre, and on a single stage press, you will find it convenient to have something like the breech lock system or the similar Hornady lock-n-load quick change system.

This allows you to quickly change dies, even between calibres with
peace of mind.

You can use either on a rock chucker - lee kit comes with the breech lock system by default.
Good advise. I had been looking at the turret presses for this exact reason but I really like the Hornady lock-n-load and for just over £20 their kit fits most presses and includes 3 bushings. I went off the turret press idea as the engineer inside me doesn’t like the inevitable error you will eventually have on the indexing of the turret.
 
Good advise. I had been looking at the turret presses for this exact reason but I really like the Hornady lock-n-load and for just over £20 their kit fits most presses and includes 3 bushings. I went off the turret press idea as the engineer inside me doesn’t like the inevitable error you will eventually have on the indexing of the turret.
Yes you can retrofit either as long as it supports 1-1/4-12 dies. Most of the bigger presses do, but not all.

Check out the Lee classic cast press too - a heavyweight and very underrated. The Ultimate Reloader channel on YouTube had loads of reviews of all this stuff.
 
Yes you can retrofit either as long as it supports 1-1/4-12 dies. Most of the bigger presses do, but not all.

Check out the Lee classic cast press too - a heavyweight and very underrated. The Ultimate Reloader channel on YouTube had loads of reviews of all this stuff.
The rockchucker comes complete with a bushing so will accept both 1 1/4"-12 and 7/8"-14 dies
 
I’ve got one of these…. The indexing set up isn’t great to be honest & I prefer to use mine like a single Press but with the convenience of having the next dies there ready and waiting

Used presses are good value in my opinion as there’s little to go wrong with a simple manual press
 
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