anybody used lasarotta ?

[sauer]

When a company owner rep states publicly that you won't be leaving the Balkans until monies are paid ?, what if you feel or know your not due any ?

Sorry but regardless of the press you have been getting in this thread , you just shot yourself in the foot with comments like that , I for one wouldn't use them know .

 

[sikamalc]

In another post you mention 50 boar among 16 hunters / in your own post 12 hunters .... can you make up your mind how many hunters where there on this trip, how many boar you miss, how many you wounded , how many where too fast to shoot at, how many where to far away, how many you could not hear and how many others noticed on your left and right but somehow they pass unnoticed by you. After all be honest how much you paid for the trip and how many boar your shot for this monies and after this time we can go on an on and compare different packages and different outfitters. Those that have the most shooting opportunities complain the most - real disgrace for the sport to write comments like this. Tell me how many boar was shoot by Artemis or Basswood or some of the new boys , 4-5 per day with group of 15 hunters , this is average in open areas for our competition for the last 2 years while each of our hunters shot on average 5-6 boar per each hunter per each trio, people are quite, rebooking with us and do not talk much ... keep secret for yourself but some of you are overstepping limits. There are few of you that still owe me monies and I was soft in the past but if you shoot over your limits and if you do not have funds to pay in cash for additional bags before leaving Balkans believe me you will stay there until all is paid since I have no more nerves for people that do not have means for shooting boar and want to come on Lasarotta hunts that are among the most expensive and so far the best available according to most of the UK shooting pres

Having been in this game probably longer than you will ever know, I am staggered with such a comment you have made. Threatening remarks on an open forum!
I will revert to my colleagues and will let you know if you are still welcome to stay on this site.

 

[tusker]

Having been in this game probably longer than you will ever know, I am staggered with such a comment you have made. Threatening remarks on an open forum!
I will revert to my colleagues and will let you know if you are still welcome to stay on this site.

Bin em Malc.
Tusker

 

[I. Farticus]

Given the positive reviews of other outfitters, I think we'll just take our hard-earned elsewhere...

 

[EMcC]

What I don't understand is why do we not get more positive reports of driven boar trips.
I know not everybody is going to feel the same, particularly if they didn't see one in front of them, but if the positive reportee states what the total pigs moved on the day was and the cost, people could do their own evaluation.
Nearly all of them say there could be up to fifty boar on a day but up to means anything from one to fifty and not all boar are seen in front, sometimes they run back or out the side, so as long as a few are seen 'up front' the agent has met his commitment.

 

[willie_gunn]

What I don't understand is why do we not get more positive reports of driven boar trips.
I know not everybody is going to feel the same, particularly if they didn't see one in front of them, but if the positive reportee states what the total pigs moved on the day was and the cost, people could do their own evaluation.
Nearly all of them say there could be up to fifty boar on a day but up to means anything from one to fifty and not all boar are seen in front, sometimes they run back or out the side, so as long as a few are seen 'up front' the agent has met his commitment.

Eddy

I think you've hit the nail on the head - every person who goes has their own opinion as to whether a trip was successful or not.

I also think the reason behind the inconsistent reports may partly be "Wild Boar Fever".

Titter ye not! I think a lot of people watch those sorts of DVD's and expect to shoot the same, regardless of how much they spend on the trip.

I've done enough stalking and guiding over the last 20 years to know that nothing is guaranteed. I go boar shooting for the experience and the craic, and with the hope that I'll perhaps get the chance of a shot. Many now seem to go expecting to shoot half a dozen pigs each day (if not each drive), "just like Franz Albrecht" and then moan about it if they're not in the right spot. These are wild animals - they don't read the rule books!

Those differences in expectations also mean that it is very difficult for any guide to get 100% positive reviews. Some people who go want to get hammered every night in the bar, others want a few drinks and to get to bed. Some want to drive a maximum of 30 minutes from the airport, others are happy to drive 2 hours or more. Some want to eat authentic local food, others want "Ham, egg & chips". Some are happy with enclosed hunts, others only want "wild". In situations like that it is always going to be very hard to please everybody. I think the trick is to find someone who organises trips you enjoy and stick with them. Some years will be better than others, but they will even out in the end.

 

[Jagare]

Eddy

I think you've hit the nail on the head - every person who goes has their own opinion as to whether a trip was successful or not.

I also think the reason behind the inconsistent reports may partly be "Wild Boar Fever".

Titter ye not! I think a lot of people watch those sorts of DVD's and expect to shoot the same, regardless of how much they spend on the trip.

I've done enough stalking and guiding over the last 20 years to know that nothing is guaranteed. I go boar shooting for the experience and the craic, and with the hope that I'll perhaps get the chance of a shot. Many now seem to go expecting to shoot half a dozen pigs each day (if not each drive), "just like Franz Albrecht" and then moan about it if they're not in the right spot. These are wild animals - they don't read the rule books!

Those differences in expectations also mean that it is very difficult for any guide to get 100% positive reviews. Some people who go want to get hammered every night in the bar, others want a few drinks and to get to bed. Some want to drive a maximum of 30 minutes from the airport, others are happy to drive 2 hours or more. Some want to eat authentic local food, others want "Ham, egg & chips". Some are happy with enclosed hunts, others only want "wild". In situations like that it is always going to be very hard to please everybody. I think the trick is to find someone who organises trips you enjoy and stick with them. Some years will be better than others, but they will even out in the end.

I think there is a lot of truth in the Franz Albrecht, wild boar fever expectation by people boar shooting. I've talked to several people one a good mate who has been on many driven boar trips. he said it was OK in the early days but as year went by almost everything about the trips got worse. Other have echo'd what he said.
I did Croatia and enjoyed the trip but it was said that we should shoot 5 boar a drive = 45 boar over 3 days. Only 5 boar were shot in the 3 days and that was not because of bad shooting just the complete lack of boar.
In the advert earlier in this thread its say 60 boar trip for X amount of guns. If i pay for a 60 boar trip i want the team of guns to shoot somewhere near the amount of boar advertised. I may be the lucky one on the trip and shoot a load or unlucky and not get a shot, such is hunting. But i think many boar trips advertised are bigged Up and don't give anywhere near what is promised.

I went to Portugal with some chaps of SD. We payed our money on hunt days and shot with the locals. No promise of big bags but i had a great time and shot a couple of boar, a red stag and could have shot more boar and red if i had been awake and had my wits about me. Easy to doze off on a nice spring day in portugal. Plus i put on several kilo's due to the amount of food served

For many these boar trips are expensive and perhaps a once in a life time trip and people want good value for money.

 

[tusker]

For me the problem is £1500 + to maybe shoot a boar. Now I know they are wild animals bla bla, but it is a lot of money to not shoot boar or see even see boar. I personally see far more value for my £1500 in other places, for eg. Africa or perhaps Moose in Estonia. I have stayed in CZ hotels of very good standard for less than £100 for 3 nights so I would like to see a break down of costs were I to book a Boar trip.
Tusker

 

[Lateral]

For me the problem is £1500 + to maybe shoot a boar. Now I know they are wild animals bla bla, but it is a lot of money to not shoot boar or see even see boar. I personally see far more value for my £1500 in other places, for eg. Africa or perhaps Moose in Estonia. I have stayed in CZ hotels of very good standard for less than £100 for 3 nights so I would like to see a break down of costs were I to book a Boar trip.
Tusker

Tusker,

I totally understand your point of view, but I can only tell you that for me at least, once you have done it, it's totally addictive.

There's nothing like hearing a twig snapping, and knowing a boar is trying to sneak past, and the excitement of hearing the dogs approaching, and the expectation of a boar charging out from any direction !

Worst trips, not one shot in 3 days, best, 9 boar in one day ! If it were easy, and you shot lots all the time, I think it would lose it's attraction !

 

[Boarboy]

In another post you mention 50 boar among 16 hunters / in your own post 12 hunters .... can you make up your mind how many hunters where there on this trip, how many boar you miss, how many you wounded , how many where too fast to shoot at, how many where to far away, how many you could not hear and how many others noticed on your left and right but somehow they pass unnoticed by you. After all be honest how much you paid for the trip and how many boar your shot for this monies and after this time we can go on an on and compare different packages and different outfitters. Those that have the most shooting opportunities complain the most - real disgrace for the sport to write comments like this. Tell me how many boar was shoot by Artemis or Basswood or some of the new boys , 4-5 per day with group of 15 hunters , this is average in open areas for our competition for the last 2 years while each of our hunters shot on average 5-6 boar per each hunter per each trio, people are quite, rebooking with us and do not talk much ... keep secret for yourself but some of you are overstepping limits. There are few of you that still owe me monies and I was soft in the past but if you shoot over your limits and if you do not have funds to pay in cash for additional bags before leaving Balkans believe me you will stay there until all is paid since I have no more nerves for people that do not have means for shooting boar and want to come on Lasarotta hunts that are among the most expensive and so far the best available according to most of the UK shooting pres

Im afraid I don't think your doing yourself any favours with this.

 

[tusker]

Tusker,

I totally understand your point of view, but I can only tell you that for me at least, once you have done it, it's totally addictive.

There's nothing like hearing a twig snapping, and knowing a boar is trying to sneak past, and the excitement of hearing the dogs approaching, and the expectation of a boar charging out from any direction !

Worst trips, not one shot in 3 days, best, 9 boar in one day ! If it were easy, and you shot lots all the time, I think it would lose it's attraction !

Hi Lateral, you are so right . I have done 5 Boar trips now and I always tell folks it is THE most exciting experience as you described. Our best day was in Slovakia when 11 of us shot 17 boar for 62 shots even then one guy never got a shot! But he was happy knowing that lots of were there. I shot boar on 3 of the 5 trips. I will do another boar hunt one day but at the moment I would like to explore other types of hunting.
Worst trip was in Poland with awful accommodation and food , drunken guides etc.
Tusker

 

[Orion]

I went to Portugal with some chaps of SD. We payed our money on hunt days and shot with the locals. No promise of big bags but i had a great time and shot a couple of boar, a red stag and could have shot more boar and red if i had been awake and had my wits about me. Easy to doze off on a nice spring day in portugal. Plus i put on several kilo's due to the amount of food served

A.K.A 'Four Go Mad in Portugal'? Another fantastic trip in good company.

I'm a relative newcomer to continental style driven shooting, and I've been seriously spoilt by the generosity of our mutual SD friend in arranging these trips (many thanks M ). IMHO if it's at all possible for people to make contact with hunting organisations or individuals in your country of choice then it is by far the best option - both in terms of value for money and not least being able to experience hunting as the locals do it, rather than as a bunch of cash cow tourists.

For many these boar trips are expensive and perhaps a once in a life time trip and people want good value for money.

From what I've read here on SD and elsewhere, I'd think long and hard and want some valid personal testimonials before booking anything via an agent - and certainly not be looking at anything the subject of this thread had on offer!

 

[Jagare]

From what I've read here on SD and elsewhere, I'd think long and hard and want some valid personal testimonials before booking anything via an agent - and certainly not be looking at anything the subject of this thread had on offer!

Its interesting when you read the breakdown of the cost of the advertised boar shooting in this thread. The price is based on £400 a boar. This price take into account the accommodation and food. What did we pay in Portugal? I think we paid average 30 euros a night for good quality single hotel rooms and food was about 15 euros a day inc wine. Yep a big to our mutual friend.
So thats why if you pay for a 60 boar trip the hunting team should reach some where near that amount. As it costs more to shoot extra boar over the 60, in fact the extra boar are more expensive than the 60 boar price because you have not got food and lodging to come of those extra boar. So why should there be a problem paying back money for boar not shot
When i was in Croatia there were a lot of shots fired but not by the hunting team. I think the beaters just enjoy letting off salvos of pistol and shotgun rounds. How the hell would anyone know how many shots the hunters had taken?

I think Tusker is right and in many cases its better value hunting in africa. I've seen many people on SD say what a great time they had with an African outfitter. Strange you don't get the same feed back from Boar shooting trips.

 

[sikamalc]

Gentlemen I have consulted with my two colleagues and Co owners of the site.

All three of us would like to emphasis that we try our best to make sure that all advertising for overseas hunting/stalking or indeed in this country is genuine. Not an easy task at the best of times!

• I would always ask for genuine recent references.
• Make sure the hunt is on paper and you know exactly what you are paying for.
• Make sure the hunter/guide/outfitter is insured (Many are not, even in this country. If you are paying to be taken stalking in the UK THE GUIDE needs to be insured.

However with this recent thread it was alarming to see such veiled threats from the OP.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union there has been a whole host of outfitters and agents cropping up in eastern block countries. I have heard some real horror stories over the years, mostly to do with hunting Ibex and sheep. There is a rash of people advertising Driven Wild Boar hunting where ever you look these days, and I have no doubt many give good value and service. However threats to any of our members from someone advertising on here selling Wild Boar hunts will not be tolerated, and if there is a professional hunters association within the country they should be reported.

None the less we are banning Lasarotta from this site for the threatening remarks in their post.

Thank you.

 

[Jabali]

Now then Dom. How's it going? I'm the Northern Yowk who drove you around that trip. Trust you're in fine fettle and lining up your diary for next season?

 

[kuwinda]

Whilst I understand and fully agree with the sentiment I'd say Mr Bogdan has dug himself a sufficiently large hole here to disappear into it without further trace (the threat wasn't very veiled...) - if he has any sense ......... but then........

Gentlemen I have consulted with my two colleagues and Co owners of the site.

All three of us would like to emphasis that we try our best to make sure that all advertising for overseas hunting/stalking or indeed in this country is genuine. Not an easy task at the best of times!

• I would always ask for genuine recent references.
• Make sure the hunt is on paper and you know exactly what you are paying for.
• Make sure the hunter/guide/outfitter is insured (Many are not, even in this country. If you are paying to be taken stalking in the UK THE GUIDE needs to be insured.

However with this recent thread it was alarming to see such veiled threats from the OP.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union there has been a whole host of outfitters and agents cropping up in eastern block countries. I have heard some real horror stories over the years, mostly to do with hunting Ibex and sheep. There is a rash of people advertising Driven Wild Boar hunting where ever you look these days, and I have no doubt many give good value and service. However threats to any of our members from someone advertising on here selling Wild Boar hunts will not be tolerated, and if there is a professional hunters association within the country they should be reported.

None the less we are banning Lasarotta from this site for the threatening remarks in their post.

Thank you.