ATVs and Trailers

[@theroedeerguy]

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[bijssg]

18 miles is a long way on a quad towing a trailer with a beast or two in you’ll definitely feel it, I’d say go for a bigger size engine bike as it sounds like you need the towing power rather than the brand of trailer.

 

[North Stalker]

Thanks for all the replies gents. I will have a good read through and see what the numbers come to.
The quad will need to go in my shed and perhaps the trailer to, so need to be able manhandle the trailer by hand. So the smaller the better.
Thanks again.

I can manoeuvre my P7 with quad loaded with the stand support, no jockey wheel fitted. It’s well balanced with the quad loaded

 

[Milligan]

Ifor p7e and a Honda 420 manual for me. 1x leaking front output shaft but otherwise no issues with either other than not getting as much use as I'd like.

 

[lambic]

18 miles is a long way on a quad towing a trailer with a beast or two in you’ll definitely feel it, I’d say go for a bigger size engine bike as it sounds like you need the towing power rather than the brand of trailer.

Apologies, should have clarified, will be towing trailer loaded with quad, using a Subaru to the hunting grounds and back. Might ocassionally tow trailer with quad on the moor during the rut, but not very often at all. Beasts would be strapped to back of ATV or in a cargo tray and transported back to car and trailer. Quad will be used for moving around grounds and carcass recovery - might be doing 10 - 20 miles in a full day.

Would I be able to squeeze a couple of hinds and quad into a P7E and then cover with tarp? Roes go in a plasters bath in my boot, but do not want reds in there anymore if I can help it.

Thainstones in Inverurie would seem the likely place, but I probably do not know enough to attend an auction (yet). Plenty of scope to get fleeced I assume. I will register though for the info on the forestry site.

Thanks for the information so far, making progress.

Any views on CVT reliablility in forestry work?

 

[woodmaster]

My Grizzly 700 "just" fits in the trailer, which I had a canvass (waterproof) cover made for. Cover has a zipped section to allow tail ramp down and side zips so you can get on/off the quad while in the trailer. Makes it real handy on trips to scotland as once there the dogs can sleep in the trailer. We can take carcasses down through town without alarming the tourists. My camp bed fits in so I have slept in it when stalking at other ground where there's no caravan. It's a really versatile trailer with the cover. No one knows what you've got in it either like if you stop at motorway servo and the likes.

 

[lambic]

Ifor p7e and a Honda 420 manual for me. 1x leaking front output shaft but otherwise no issues with either other than not getting as much use as I'd like.

Milligan,

That is a very nice combo and what I would aspire to if I can justify the spend. Hope you can advise on a few questions about trailer choice...

There appears to be 3 variations of the P7E:

P7e 20.5x8x10 Internal Length 2.21m Internal Width 1.21m Gross Weight 750kg
P7e 145/70R13 Internal Length 2.21m Internal Width 1.21m Gross Weight 500kg
P7e 145/70R13 Internal Length 2.21m Internal Width 1.21m Gross Weight 750kg

Which one did you go for?

Is an aluminuim treadplate worth the money or are is more likely to prevent the ply from drying quickly and increase chance of rot?

The Honda website says the Honda Fourtrax 420 Width = 1.205m . The trailer internal width is 1.21m. How much space do you have in yours between the trailer side and quad wheels ?

Thanks

 

[Milligan]

Milligan,

That is a very nice combo and what I would aspire to if I can justify the spend. Hope you can advise on a few questions about trailer choice...

There appears to be 3 variations of the P7E:

P7e 20.5x8x10 Internal Length 2.21m Internal Width 1.21m Gross Weight 750kg
P7e 145/70R13 Internal Length 2.21m Internal Width 1.21m Gross Weight 500kg
P7e 145/70R13 Internal Length 2.21m Internal Width 1.21m Gross Weight 750kg

Which one did you go for?

Is an aluminuim treadplate worth the money or are is more likely to prevent the ply from drying quickly and increase chance of rot?

The Honda website says the Honda Fourtrax 420 Width = 1.205m . The trailer internal width is 1.21m. How much space do you have in yours between the trailer side and quad wheels ?

Thanks

the main difference in the 3 is the tyres, the first being flotation tyres.
I went for the 3rd.

The decking is pretty solid and well sealed so don't think the checker plate is necessary.
There is ample space for the quad to ride it up the ramp without concern. space upfront or behind and of course underneath.

 

[rodp]

The best advice. Whatever size trailer you buy will not be big enough. Buy a good quality cover / tarpaulin, it will be worth it in the long run. If you have a cover made for it don't have zips, have velcro flaps (one tooth broken and a zip is useless, you'll end up poking holes in it and cable tying). Think very carefully about buying Ifor Williams, they are without doubt the best, and also the most stolen (you can't leave an Ifor in a layby even locked to the tow motor).

 

[woodmaster]

Forget the make of my trailer but it has indespension units on it rather than the leave springs that IW use. I find IW rattle like hell when not carrying a decent load but indespension units ride much smoother.
As Rod says zips might be a problem, although mine have worked find for the past 3 years or so. I had thought of just having eyelets and passing a tape or chord through like they do on the foreign truck trailers. I also made a little jib that slots into the top of the bars that hold the cover. So suspended grallocks and loading of reds is easy.

 

[lambic]

the main difference in the 3 is the tyres, the first being flotation tyres.
I went for the 3rd.

The decking is pretty solid and well sealed so don't think the checker plate is necessary.
There is ample space for the quad to ride it up the ramp without concern. space upfront or behind and of course underneath.

Thanks Milligan. Trailer choice is pretty much confirmed. Seems like a pretty solid purchase as well, in terms of resale value in future years.

P7E 145/70R13 + Jockey Wheel + Light guards + Mesh Sides

Now to find the right quad, or rather a good quad at the best possible price.

 

[lambic]

To be honest not considered the cover yet at all. But will avoid zips when the time comes.

I think I will go IW though, purely for the resale value if required.

Crime is not really problem where I live compared to other parts of the country, just need to cover the animals during towing for hygiene reasons.

 

[Milligan]

FYI - you can't fit a tow lock on the P7 hitch.
there are some 2nd hand quad dealers on ebay in Cheshire which are worth a look.

 

[JTO]

Is there a trailer made that is big enough to carry a quad, and light enough to be towed by the same quad?

 

[VSS]

Is there a trailer made that is big enough to carry a quad, and light enough to be towed by the same quad?

Yes. Several companies manufacture trailers suitable.

 

[lambic]

If the Quad is not road registered, do you insure it under house and contents insurance? Or does it need some specific policy......

Thanks

 

[Milligan]

Is there a trailer made that is big enough to carry a quad, and light enough to be towed by the same quad?

P7 is light enough, only consideration is the draw bar and jockey wheel clearance.

 

[kes]

I bought a P7e - with cover for pigs and sheep- 4 thumbscrew bolta and the cover plus trailer gates lift off - £750 all in from local farm shop.
Off road ATV trailers with balloon tyres do not work on the road unless at slow speed. Tight corners at speed will take the tyres off the rims on road.
Sp I went for the P7e - excellent and would recommend tow it behind the quad to collect anything from the (steep) fields and can get the quad on the trailer, attach to the car and nip off to the shoot.
They do hold their value - dont buy a hire trailer - go for new and try to get the price down would be my best advice - There's always pre-loved !

 

[Milligan]

If the Quad is not road registered, do you insure it under house and contents insurance? Or does it need some specific policy......

Thanks

you don't have to insure it but you could do it on household but check extent of cover as there are often limitations.
alternately someone like NFU or Adrian Flux might cover it.

 

[Bower]

If you are looking at a Suzuki, I would go for a king quad 500 rather than the 400.

Smoother fuel injected engine, independent rear suspension, power steering on some and much more reliable.

Good luck with the search