AW Cost

[Paul at Fechan]

Don't really want to stir......

What's the problem if AW's charge especially on their own ground? I don't a problem and if an AW charges £100 a day just for witnessing including paperwork down the line with letter etc. People have mentioned getting 'ripped off' and well lets be realistic here. How much does a builder cost an hour or a mechanic for a few hours. An AW is an experience person to the same relative level of experience and your paying for their service.

Step back a bit now..... We all know about mates rates and doing favours whether it's doing the car or whatever. Deer stalking and witnessing is exactly the same and while some AW's are happy to witness for fuel costs when it's not related to their income, others need to charge as it's directly tied into their income.

The AW who witnessed me put it right into focus for me. When he takes clients out on the fallow he averages 2-3 a day but when witnesses candidates on the same ground the success rate lower than 1 a day. Even at 1 fallow difference per day that's a big chunk out of the guys earnings and the extra fees he has are to compensate for this. He makes more money NOT witnessing that doing it so you tell me then, what's the problem?

Also bare in mind the cost of qualifications and compare level 2 to your chainsaw, quadbike or whatever short course costs.. These things are not given out by Father Christmas you know!

 

[prometheus]

I agree with Paul at Barony, what's the problem if an AW wants some pay, its a free market and the market will dictate a rate for the job. I have only been stalking about 10 years or so but i have not perceived much of a cost change over that time for accompanied pro stalking from the adverts seen in the usual press. Those that feel ripped off because they have not had the chance of a deer on a accompanied stalk really do need to take it on the chin. My ground has loads of deer but i go out sometimes and just don't find them and i am sure i am not alone with that one !

 

[bobt]

John at Yorshshirestalking offered to winess me shooting on my own land, but if you add in his travel, his time, and his loss of earnings for the day, it made more sense to go to him,
I dont understand the expecting things for free mentality.

when I do a job for someone I expect payment, ok if its for a mate I may only charge expenses, but why should anyone be out of pocket?

 

[JAYB]

The cost of a witnessed stalk is like anything else in life, if you want it there is usually a cost. The trick is to keep the cost down if you can, this may be by arranging a swap of stalking etc, a friend who does it for mates rates, having a reasonable cost tacked onto the end of a days stalking, whatever there is a cost implication. However as with all things you have to shop around and get the best value for money because of all the things you can be sure of there is always someone willing to part you from your money.

If you want it then you save up for it, if you don't want it, what are you moaning about?

Just a final thought on those who expect to have it all done for them for free, is this not as bad as those who rip people off.

John

 

[centralbeltstalker]

having a reasonable cost tacked onto the end of a days stalking, whatever there is a cost implication.

John

Hi john,

hypothetically speaking,

I have 600 acres of land that currently is needing all deer extracted (in excess of 29 as that's the last count) in west lothian as its got regen and is deer fenced.
i have reasonable costs in incurring this and also have 3rd party liability insurance fuel seats etc etc.
if i need help and offered that help to all members at say a reasonable cost of £45 a stalk i dont need to pay for advertising do I.
I think thats ok by what your saying isnt it
f.

 

[Uncle Buck]

The cost of a witnessed stalk is like anything else in life, if you want it there is usually a cost. The trick is to keep the cost down if you can, this may be by arranging a swap of stalking etc, a friend who does it for mates rates, having a reasonable cost tacked onto the end of a days stalking, whatever there is a cost implication. However as with all things you have to shop around and get the best value for money because of all the things you can be sure of there is always someone willing to part you from your money.

If you want it then you save up for it, if you don't want it, what are you moaning about?

Just a final thought on those who expect to have it all done for them for free, is this not as bad as those who rip people off.

John

Could'nt have put it better JAYB,

You get nothing in Life for free except GRIEF!!!!

Rgds, Buck.

 

[centralbeltstalker]

Just a final thought on those who expect to have it all done for them for free, is this not as bad as those who rip people off.

John

when you sell your soul to the devil it always costs something John.
It may look like hes doing you a favour but the devil always wins.
Nothing is free.
As for those that rip people off well in the end what goes round comes round
name and shame then poor guys wont get caught out.
to many secrets going on in this sport

atb mate f

 

[JAYB]

Hi john,

hypothetically speaking,

I have 600 acres of land that currently is needing all deer extracted (in excess of 29 as that's the last count) in west lothian as its got regen and is deer fenced.
i have reasonable costs in incurring this and also have 3rd party liability insurance fuel seats etc etc.
if i need help and offered that help to all members at say a reasonable cost of £45 a stalk i dont need to pay for advertising do I.
I think thats ok by what your saying isnt it
f.

Frank,

this thread is about the cost of an AW stalk, if you are selling stalking on here then you have to become a trade member, regardless if an AW stalk is included or not. I'm sorry mate but I cannot see where you get the bit about not having to pay from.

when you sell your soul to the devil it always costs something John.
It may look like hes doing you a favour but the devil always wins.
Nothing is free.
As for those that rip people off well in the end what goes round comes round
name and shame then poor guys wont get caught out.
to many secrets going on in this sport

atb mate f

This bit is far too deep for me, are you saying the Devil is an AW

John