Anyone for a pseudo discount on a 4x4?
Not getting into again fin, nobody listening to my questions, some on here think I'm daft for paying my subs to basc while they pay to an organisation that doesn't care about what goes on in EnglandDear Jimmy Milnes, No other organisation has done the damage or demonstrated the rollover gambit , How long before people like you realise it’s people like you who keep BASC in business?
You may be aware of a considerable difference which was made by, amongst others, Oliver and I in respect of the top level of BASC management subsequent to our election. BASC now has a commitment towards the funding of political staff and a medical panel for members in difficulty with their GPs. There is no intention to sit back, given the unprecedented challenges which shooting faces now and into the future.Ann Mortimer has been on Council for some time and Oliver as well I think. So why should they make a difference?
David.
The trouble is that the formation of the medical panel is a result of previous mistakes many of which appear to have been as a result of BASC not nailing down a proper agreement and then not re-acting strongly when things started to go wrong. There should never have been a need for a medical panel if the right steps had been taken. Medical practioners are actually allowed not to do certain procedures on matters of conscience, termination of pregnancy being one of the more well known, but if they do have problems of conscience they are obliged to put the patient into contact with a practioner who does not have the same feelings, the people on council didn't and still don't seem to understand that were levers that could have been used and weren't. Things like this don't impress and it seems that very often we are promised "jam tomorrow" but I would have hoped we had moved on from there. I was more than a little annoyed when having gone through the rigmarole of registering for the AGM and being told that I had completed all the steps found I couldn't log in for the AGM. I am afraid so many things seem not to work at the Mill in the interests of members. I have taken the trouble to attend quite a few AGMs and they just seem to be a stage managed exercise that is run for the convenience of management. I know that our shoot, which for years has always insured through BASC is now discussing going elsewhere for insurance because of what is seen as a catalogue of mis-steps by BASC. The ongoing sorry saga over the way lead has been treated doesn't help either, we were promised no loss of lead without a cost effective efficient replacement. I see that the loss of lead will be used as a tool to beat us. It is known that the substitutes for lead generally are ballistically less efficient and also the fact that it doesn't distort to shed energy for added lethality will be used by saying that we are happy to hunt with a second best product so we are cruel people who care little for our quarry.You may be aware of a considerable difference which was made by, amongst others, Oliver and I in respect of the top level of BASC management subsequent to our election. BASC now has a commitment towards the funding of political staff and a medical panel for members in difficulty with their GPs. There is no intention to sit back, given the unprecedented challenges which shooting faces now and into the future.
But that’s what you do too .....they pay to an organisation that doesn't care about what goes on in Englandan I'm suppose to be the lunatic..
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I've never said basc are the best thing since sliced bread though unlike #some# regarding their chosen organisationBut that’s what you do too .....
But making out an org is useless to people in England while paying money to basc is a bit of an oxymoron isn’t it ?I've never said basc are the best thing since sliced bread though unlike #some# regarding their chosen organisation![]()
Or maybe saying basc are useless while pay money to an organisation that's only really interested in Scotland is the oxymoron Jim?But making out an org is useless to people in England while paying money to basc is a bit of an oxymoron isn’t it ?
That’s your choice mate and your prerogative however I’d sooner not pay money to an org that is actively destroying shooting , as I’ve said before as a basc member you’re pretty much the most effective anti there isOr maybe saying basc are useless while pay money to an organisation that's only really interested in Scotland is the oxymoron Jim?Who's to say which way round it is..
To repeat myself AGAIN I'm not saying basc are the best thing since sliced bread, I've said on many occasions that they've c0cked up seriously, but when I ask who's doing better nobody can give me an answer...
Let me try to simplify it for you...
If an organisation "any of them not just your choice" aren't doing anything then it stands as perfect logic that they can't fukc up...
But surely by doing nothing while under attack is also leading to the destruction of shooting Jim ?That’s your choice mate and your prerogative however I’d sooner not pay money to an org that is actively destroying shooting , as I’ve said before as a basc member you’re pretty much the most effective anti there is
Is doing nothing the worst ? Or actively helping the antis along ? I liken bascs approach to threats like trying to put a fire out in the bedroom by setting fire to the kitchen ....But surely by doing nothing while under attack is also leading to the destruction of shooting Jim ?
We need an organisation that's working proactively and I don't see one, yes I probably may need to change with things going the way they are
BUT WHO TOO !!!!!!!! THE OTHERS SEEM TO BE SAT ON THEIR HANDS.. perhaps they're frightened of getting something wrong or don't know what to do...
Both as bad in my book, if I wanted to win a war I'd neither retreat or sit with my fingers in my ears, both will loose the war.. I'd attack..Is doing nothing the worst ? Or actively helping the antis along ? I liken bascs approach to threats like trying to put a fire out in the bedroom by setting fire to the kitchen ....
Would you shoot yourself as a means of attack ? That’s kinda the basc equivalent , but while enjoying an expensive lunch. My point being you know for an absolute fact they will never attack ..... ever . So why stay ?Both as bad in my book, if I wanted to win a war I'd neither retreat or sit with my fingers in my ears, both will loose the war.. I'd attack..
Because we already know the answers ConnorLet's just recap that this is a thread about the BASC AGM that took place on Saturday 11th July that nobody from this forum attended as far as I know - and if they did - they asked no questions.
Do you type that statement fresh each time Connor, or do you copy and paste it from the other 3 times youve said it ?Let's just recap that this is a thread about the BASC AGM that took place on Saturday 11th July that nobody from this forum attended as far as I know - and if they did - they asked no questions.
That cap fits on my head Conor I'll admit, however I did vote in the election with one I supported voted on council and one not unfortunately.Let's just recap that this is a thread about the BASC AGM that took place on Saturday 11th July that nobody from this forum attended as far as I know - and if they did - they asked no questions.
So Conor are you saying we should start a new thread of our own and the title of the thread. How well as BASC represented its member over the last five years.Let's just recap that this is a thread about the BASC AGM that took place on Saturday 11th July that nobody from this forum attended as far as I know - and if they did - they asked no questions.
star date (past till present no future!.