BASC commits ‘Fighting Fund’ support to Humber wildfowlers

[User00025]

What's the quote on lead today then, and private doctor's fees ?

Pretty poor, as I've always said...

However I'm sure everyone is writing to THEIR organisation telling them how disgruntled they are with the lack of visual fighting for fieldsports that THEY'RE doing..

Narrr doubt it.... as its easier to just keep coming on here digging at BASC "who like the others have their failings, which I've never denied" Where's the other orgs presence on here ??? Narrrr not here cause they're all keeping their heads down to avoid the flack....
[/QUOTE]

Nah, no point in writing to my insurance company.
Couldn't be bothered with shooting organisations after lead and doctors do as none are doing much at all. Just keep hammering my MP and trying to get folk to eat game and venison.

 

[Donnachaidh]

Good to see some action; hope this is the beginning of a sustained campaign. My BASC membership expired last month after 30 years, I'd be very happy to renew it if there is a determination to fight our corner by recourse to law rather than the previous policy of appeasement and quiet lobbying, which hasn't exactly been a resounding success in my eyes.

 

[paul o']

I don't like BASC , and dislike the fact Most wildfowl clubs force the BASC membership on there members as part of there fee's giving no other choice ! , I have my other reasons but there mine , But they are the only ones who come on SD and give us there 2p worth even if we don't always agree with what we read .
I for one wish we had All the ORG's that are probably looking in but stay in the background on this site .
I wish they also had the balls to stand up and inform us on the latest news or what they are doing in our name and with our sub's ? , I know they all have fowling members aswell as game shooters and around shooters on there books just like BASC .
I am coming to the conclusion that they all have there own agender , and sadly it all starts with a stack of Members cash to do with and use as they wish ?So if your out there NGO ,SACS ect lets here you and not wait for a news ,sorry old news ! vie letter a few times a year ?
It grinds me to say Well Done BASC .

 

[wildfowler1]

See the same post on Pigeon Watch and the criticism there -I'm fed up of doing it.
Now 8 BASC posts on the first page - is there that much interest ?

Yes if you have Wildfowled or are a Wildfowler there is interest !!!!

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

If it wasn't for local wildfowlers setting up clubs and subsequently taking on leases from the Crown Estate in England, Wales and NI some 900km of coastal wildfowling could have been lost. A huge amount of volunteer time goes into retaining those leases and consents by club officials behind the scenes. BASC staff have played a key role assisting clubs across the country with those lease and consent renewals for many decades and that work continues today.

See below for an insight into the work of BASC's wildfowling team:

Behind the scenes of BASC’s wildfowling team -

James Green explains the role of BASC’s wildfowling team, who they are and what they have been working on lately.

basc.org.uk

 

[CarlW]

I don't like BASC , and dislike the fact Most wildfowl clubs force the BASC membership on there members as part of there fee's giving no other choice ! , I have my other reasons but there mine , But they are the only ones who come on SD and give us there 2p worth even if we don't always agree with what we read .
I for one wish we had All the ORG's that are probably looking in but stay in the background on this site .
I wish they also had the balls to stand up and inform us on the latest news or what they are doing in our name and with our sub's ? , I know they all have fowling members aswell as game shooters and around shooters on there books just like BASC .
I am coming to the conclusion that they all have there own agender , and sadly it all starts with a stack of Members cash to do with and use as they wish ?So if your out there NGO ,SACS ect lets here you and not wait for a news ,sorry old news ! vie letter a few times a year ?
It grinds me to say Well Done BASC .

I have to agree, Paul. Anyone who keeps showing up like these guys and having the debate earns respect, no matter what one thinks of their employer.

 

[kes]

I would potentially agree but this is repeated news and can only be organisational publicity - given its posted everywhere, including their own website. The comparison with other org's who have news (NGO for example) but choose not to put items on shooting websites is a little flawed.
The posted responses tend to be rather more supportive of positive views and critical of adverse views than explanatory, plenty of examples to check.
For example NGO News and News

 

[Mike L]

Old shamooli.

 

[JabaliHunter]

So here's the thing..... BASC get accused of doing nothing regarding anything to help there members or the fieldsports community so they get heckled the sh1t out of on here.
Now they've started to post on here relevant information about stuff and in this post that they are helping wildfowling with advice and funding and they get heckled the sh1t out of...
And "I'M THE ONE" who gets accused of being a trole on a previous thread.... Come on chaps it's absolutely priceless

If it wasn't for local wildfowlers setting up clubs and subsequently taking on leases from the Crown Estate in England, Wales and NI some 900km of coastal wildfowling could have been lost. A huge amount of volunteer time goes into retaining those leases and consents by club officials behind the scenes. BASC staff have played a key role assisting clubs across the country with those lease and consent renewals for many decades and that work continues today.

See below for an insight into the work of BASC's wildfowling team:

Behind the scenes of BASC’s wildfowling team -

James Green explains the role of BASC’s wildfowling team, who they are and what they have been working on lately.

basc.org.uk

I’m sure this is all great, but apart from advertising, what relevance is this to deer stalking?

 

[mudman]

Well as someone directly affected by this issue (NE refusal the renew the wildfowling consent on the upper Humber), I think it is fantastic news. NE have not just imposed restrictions on the wildfowlers, they have completely stopped us, no shooting, even on land we bought for shooting over, invested in our future only to be stopped by a semi functioning quango full of thinly veiled antis straight out of university

 

[finnbear270]

Good to see some action; hope this is the beginning of a sustained campaign. My BASC membership expired last month after 30 years, I'd be very happy to renew it if there is a determination to fight our corner by recourse to law rather than the previous policy of appeasement and quiet lobbying, which hasn't exactly been a resounding success in my eyes.

Recourse to law, I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Basil H]

The history of events on the Humber, and the disagreements between some clubs and BASC over the way forward, are too complicated to go into here, but the matter is the tip of a very big iceberg which might sink many of us.
This may not be immediately relevant to deer stalking, but it has huge potential ramifications.
It is ultimately about the law affecting European protected areas, and how it is interpreted (gold-plated ?) by NE, NRW etc. It has the ability to stop or greatly reduce wildfowling activity on dozens if not hundreds of sites by the issue or non-issue of "consents" to our activities. It also relates to the WJ attempts to stop the release of gamebirds within protected areas.
Further, if they get away with this, there is the possibility of seeking buffer zones beyond the designated sites where restrictions could apply. It is conceivable that for example firing a rifle near such an area could become "disturbance".
I would rather hope that anyone most people on here would seek to defend most other shooting sports if only out of self-interest.

By the way, these are "European" protected areas but leaving the EU has no effect.

I am always ready to criticise BASC when necessary but this is good news.

 

[Apthorpe]

Good news to see BASC standing up to help. Also good news to see them informing people what they're doing.
I have plenty of strong criticisms of BASC, but this - and some other recent acts - are good steps in the right direction. Disappointed to see some other critics kicking BASC for doing what it should. There may be a lot of threads started by BASC staff recently - but if they're being more productive in sensible directions, I applaud it.

 

[terrier1]

Further, if they get away with this, there is the possibility of seeking buffer zones beyond the designated sites where restrictions could apply. It is conceivable that for example firing a rifle near such an area could become "disturbance".
I would rather hope that anyone most people on here would seek to defend most other shooting sports if only out of self-interest.

Yes we all thought fox hunting was a buffer and marched around London to try and stop them. But we all know how that went we need a strong active organization to represent us.

 

[finnbear270]

One with teeth.

 

[kes]

Good news to see BASC standing up to help. Also good news to see them informing people what they're doing.
I have plenty of strong criticisms of BASC, but this - and some other recent acts - are good steps in the right direction. Disappointed to see some other critics kicking BASC for doing what it should. There may be a lot of threads started by BASC staff recently - but if they're being more productive in sensible directions, I applaud it.

They are not being more productive - give them credit for having been doing these things for quite a while - I just dont want to have everything on their website repeated on every site I visit - they have a news section of their website - all orgs do - if you want to see what they are doing, you can go there. The other Orgs, all of them individually could post their news everywhere too - I can imagine that would not go down well, so why the selectivity ?
As for whether their actions are sufficient, timely, or relevant, or even beneficial, thats another issue which I am not getting into - again.

 

[Mike L]

The site owners seem to be happy they are here.

 

[willie_gunn]

As, apparently, do the other 23,499 members (as of just now).

Maybe someone should run a poll?

 

[terrier1]

The site owners seem to be happy they are here.

It called free speech. And I for one am glad the owners of the site back free speech.

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

For anyone interested in further insight into our challenge to Natural England's approach to wildfowling consents listen to the September issue of BASC's Podcast which features an interview with James Green, BASC head of wildfowling.

The podcast is also well worth a listen to hear more about how we are pushing back against negative press for shooting. And also hear about how we are fighting attempts to undermine the general licences for pest birds in Wales and attempts to restrict gamebird releasing in England.

Podcast

Each episode includes the latest news and views relating to shooting with expert analysis of shooting-related affairs and interviews.

basc.org.uk