BASC condemns proposed firearms fees hike as a threat to public safety

[25 Sharps]

Increasing by inflation is difficult to argue against. But the service has degraded seriously in the last 10 years.
So I would argue that an increase by inflation should be linked to a return to 2015 level service. Any increase above that, but an improvement over and above the 2015 situation.

Going for a 10 year licence period would make sense. No increase in costs and pretty much halving the workload.
I see that 10 years is mentioned in the document, but only as an appraisal period, not a license period!

Not all service has degraded, Wiltshire are as good low as when I got my first ticket 15 years ago.

 

[finnbear270]

£24 is too much for you then?

£24.00 for homes for spiders?

 

[andyk]

Got to agree with @DRZ on this one, it’s £31 a year for the renewal and £40.40 per year for a grant - so 2-3 boxes of shotgun cartridges or a box of centrefire.

If you’re not willing to pay that, then I have to question how much shooting you do. Yes, it’s all cumulative but this doesn’t seem a good reason for someone to quit if they’ll tolerate all the other costs.

I pay about £180 per year for my club and BASC is now £95.

 

[jall55]

I will bin the shotgun next time around.

Make the co-terminus Finn -if they are not already - Price not the end of the world

 

[finnbear270]

Make the co-terminus Finn -if they are not already - Price not the end of the world

They already are

 

[jall55]

They already are

For the sake of 20 quid i would worry about something else mate

 

[Bavarianbrit]

It was in the manifesto to get the full cost for FAC and SGC and take any increase to fund inner city knife crime.
No increase of efficiency or anything positive will come about from this for us the legal owners because there's no money going where it's needed for us.
Another TAX by another means on a singled out group.

Do we really need to fund inner city knife crime? I thought it got along fine without needing government funding.

 

[Dickie]

Do we really need to fund inner city knife crime? I thought it got along fine without needing government funding.

 

[Stevie/P]

So I’m due for renewal I’ve submitted my application 16 weeks ago signed and dated the cheque that has not yet been cashed my renewal date is end of January 2025 still waiting to be contacted if my renewal is not completed by expiring date automatic 8 week extension will I be liable for the new renewal fee coming into force 5th February assuming my renewal has not been granted within the 8 week extension.

 

[finnbear270]

Think you & me are the only ones with a sense of humour.

 

[VSS]

So I’m due for renewal I’ve submitted my application 16 weeks ago signed and dated the cheque that has not yet been cashed my renewal date is end of January 2025 still waiting to be contacted if my renewal is not completed by expiring date automatic 8 week extension will I be liable for the new renewal fee coming into force 5th February assuming my renewal has not been granted within the 8 week extension.

No, it would appear not.

Copied from the document:
"If an application and related payment has been received by the police on or before 4 February 2025, the police will honour the fee that has been paid".

 

[Dickie]

So I’m due for renewal I’ve submitted my application 16 weeks ago signed and dated the cheque that has not yet been cashed my renewal date is end of January 2025 still waiting to be contacted if my renewal is not completed by expiring date automatic 8 week extension will I be liable for the new renewal fee coming into force 5th February assuming my renewal has not been granted within the 8 week extension.

I would say no if your FAC runs out in January and the fee goes up in February their problem not yours apart from not having your FAC back on time, which they'll blame on the lack of funding which they'll still have after the increase.

 

[Dickie]

Who the F#ck worked this out?
For coterminous grant or renewal applications there are four scenarios where the new fees apply. In all situations the fee is calculated using the fee for the firearms grant or renewal plus an additional amount for the shotgun grant or renewal. The scenarios are explained in more detail below:

1. when an applicant is granted a shotgun certificate at the same time as being granted a firearms certificate, the total fee payable will be £202. The fee for the grant of a firearm certificate will be £198 and the fee for the grant of a shotgun certificate will be £4;
2. when an applicant is granted a shotgun certificate at the same time as renewing a firearm certificate, the total fee payable will be £202. The fee for the renewal of a firearm certificate will be £131 and the fee for the grant of a shotgun certificate will be £71;
3. when an applicant is renewing a shotgun certificate at the same time as being granted a firearm certificate, the total fee payable will be £202. The fee for the grant of a firearm certificate will be £198 and the fee for the renewal of a shotgun certificate will be £4; and
4. when an applicant is renewing a shotgun certificate at the same time as renewing a firearms certificate, the total fee payable will be £155. The fee for a renewal of a firearm certificate will be £131 and the fee for the renewal of a shotgun certificate will be £24.

Did they use a bingo machine with limited numbers in it?

 

[Dickie]

Wait.....so Field sports TV tried to misinform us with a load of tripe?? Surely not, pillars of the media community!!

 

[finnbear270]

Who the F#ck worked this out?
For coterminous grant or renewal applications there are four scenarios where the new fees apply. In all situations the fee is calculated using the fee for the firearms grant or renewal plus an additional amount for the shotgun grant or renewal. The scenarios are explained in more detail below:

1. when an applicant is granted a shotgun certificate at the same time as being granted a firearms certificate, the total fee payable will be £202. The fee for the grant of a firearm certificate will be £198 and the fee for the grant of a shotgun certificate will be £4;
2. when an applicant is granted a shotgun certificate at the same time as renewing a firearm certificate, the total fee payable will be £202. The fee for the renewal of a firearm certificate will be £131 and the fee for the grant of a shotgun certificate will be £71;
3. when an applicant is renewing a shotgun certificate at the same time as being granted a firearm certificate, the total fee payable will be £202. The fee for the grant of a firearm certificate will be £198 and the fee for the renewal of a shotgun certificate will be £4; and
4. when an applicant is renewing a shotgun certificate at the same time as renewing a firearms certificate, the total fee payable will be £155. The fee for a renewal of a firearm certificate will be £131 and the fee for the renewal of a shotgun certificate will be £24.

Did they use a bingo machine with limited numbers in it?

Just the beginning of the adoption of a system already in play,

 

[Dragonfly Ordnance]

£47 for a non like for like variation, give consideration to your slots when you apply or renew.

 

[Tugmanade]

Who the F#ck worked this out?

A government minister ??

 

[homer]

I will bin the shotgun next time around.

That's exactly what they're wanting you to do!

 

[finnbear270]

That's exactly what they're wanting you to do!

You missed my attempt at humour earlier.

 

[Dickie]

A government minister ??

Well beyond their level of maths it can't be done with fingers.