Basc reloading course
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palmer_mike
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Is the syllabus written in crayon?
Conor O'Gorman
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BASC runs many reloading and other courses and you would be most welcome to attend - and you could also take up your concerns about terminology face to face with those running the course rather than silly sniping on a forum.
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palmer_mike
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It’s not silly sniping to expect courses to use the correct terminology. Also, pay money to attend?BASC runs many reloading and other courses and you would be most welcome to attend - and you could also take up your concerns about terminology face to face with those running the course rather than silly sniping on a forum.
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I don’t think it’s mandatory to attend.It’s not silly sniping to expect courses to use the correct terminology. Also, pay money to attend?
BASC runs many reloading and other courses and you would be most welcome to attend - and you could also take up your concerns about terminology face to face with those running the course rather than silly sniping on a forum.
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BASC training courses help promote and protect shooting by establishing and maintaining high standards through training, education and best practice.
It's not silly snipping at all.
You (the BASC) are teaching people, new-comers, to use the wrong/inncorrect terminiology..
Calling things by the correct name is important, all you've manage to do (in my mind) is demonstrate that your "teachers" are ignorant regarding the naming conventions of the processes and piece parts of reloading.
I think you should take your responsibilites seriously not make a mockery of them.
How do the teachers explain 'headspace' ?
Do they state that the primer get pushed into the bottom ?
Do they think the primer detonates the powder ?
Is this course designed to 'educate' people or simply mislead them ??
palmer_mike
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Quite right it’s not.
Connor was suggesting that those who thought the use of incorrect terminology should attend to discuss it with the course provider.
davegixxer
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Been on the course and I learnt a lot exceptional wealth of knowledge. Now as for incorrect terminology if you have not been on a course then yes you will probably know them as bullet heads is it that you want them to be called projectiles or is it the term bullet that upsets. After all Hornady who make them refer to them as bullets
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It's the heads that causes issues. They're bullets, plain and simple, not bullet heads. The gripe appears to be with BASC using incorrect terminology
I saw it more as Connor O'Gormless advocating the use of inncorrect terminology across a range of courses.
Unless of course BASC aren't poutting thier name or reputation forwards ?
Or are BASC are just taking money from the 'course providers' ie they are advertising this 'course' and taking a profit without any recourse or liability ?
Oh dear ...
Your right @davegixxer Hornady (and all of the other manufacturers) call bullets, bullets too. For a good reason.
A projectile is something that has been projected.
A brick is a projectile, so is an egg and a stone, in fact anything that is thrown or fired out of a barrel..
A bullet becomes a projectile when it has been projected out of the barrel, until it has been, it's a bullet NOT a Bullet Head.
Who is running/teaching these courses Connor O'G would it be a reseller by any chance ?
Someone whose opinion of the intelligence of his audience is minimalistic (at best) ?
Someone who has a desire to 'dumb down' the reloading process ?
Is that a directive that BASC is adopting/promoting ?
From this NRA diagram, I guess what they’re saying is we need to chop up some cases and just bring the end where the primer goes. BASC must provide the other end of the brass!
Wonder who brings the bullets….!
are you honestly suggesting we pay to attend a course just to correct terminology? Or can we just turn up unannounced to heckle?
Words matter. If you’re charging folk to teach them stuff then at least teach them the right stuff.
davegixxer
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All I can say is the course I attended was supported with a memory stick of the course detail and a very hefty tome of terminology in the form of a glossary to learn. There was No brand affiliation with various brands products being supplied to use if the candidates did not have that item of reloading gear. Good discussions were had about the pros and cons of different manufacturers and personal experiences.
Like I say I enjoyed the course I personally learned a lot. It was not slanted at a particular brand and it was aimed at a basic level like it is billed. I get the taking issue over use of the word head. But again that is why you go on a course to learn maybe it would be better to ask BASC to remove the word from the joini g instruction
Like I say I enjoyed the course I personally learned a lot. It was not slanted at a particular brand and it was aimed at a basic level like it is billed. I get the taking issue over use of the word head. But again that is why you go on a course to learn maybe it would be better to ask BASC to remove the word from the joini g instruction
Conor O'Gorman
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It is silly sniping to start a thread about this. Clearly there has been a void of BASC bashing in recent weeks that void needs to be fulfilled. And your comment "Is the syllabus written in crayon?" is unnecessary and immature, but clearly fulfils your personal needs.It’s not silly sniping to expect courses to use the correct terminology. Also, pay money to attend?
Conor O'Gorman
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It is indeed silly sniping. And your comments simply underline this. When was the last time you made a positive comment about BASC on this forum?
Conor O'Gorman
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A bit early of an evening for the trolls to emerge?
palmer_mike
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Alternatively, you could receive the constructive criticism offered by the OP and correct the mistake BASC made in its course material?
Also, you could thank the OP for drawing the mistake to your attention
Conor O'Gorman
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Thank you for taking the time to share the perspective of someone that has been on the course. If any BASC member reading this thread wishes to advise on different terminology to that being used on BASC reloading courses please email me at conor.ogorman@basc.org.uk and I will raise with colleagues in the training team. I view this thread as an excuse for BASC bashing by a few non-members. Happy to be proved wrong.
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