BBC headlining those dreadful fires in Spain and France……
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While I agree that it should be more on the news, the same as the ones going in Wales, its deaths that mainly 'sell newspapers' ie make the news.
and according to the local news seen on you tube, no-one has yet been hurt.
that is why on the news pages of the BBC website you would have to click on the Scotland or Wales link to see the news articles. It just has not made the cut to be the main items.
and according to the local news seen on you tube, no-one has yet been hurt.
that is why on the news pages of the BBC website you would have to click on the Scotland or Wales link to see the news articles. It just has not made the cut to be the main items.
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Bo Diddley
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LBC has had some hysterical callers this morning concerning the wildfires.
A few years ago, they interviewed a chap who was an expert in ecology and climate change.
He was very level-headed and had plenty of evidence to back up his stance.
Basically all down to a change in how the land is being managed now, or not, whichever viewpoint you take. He used Hawaii as an example. They had only just got the wildfires under control over there. Decades ago, they made a high percentage of their income from pineapple groves. Then they realised they could make more money more easily from tourism, so the pineapple groves largly become abandonded scrub land, a tinderbox in effect, and when it caught light, we had it all over the news as being attributed to "Climate Change"
He also said the very same scenario was taking place in the Med, lack of traditional management of the landscape.
You could say the same about muirburn over here, poorly thought-out policies from those organisations with an agenda who control the narrative.
A few years ago, they interviewed a chap who was an expert in ecology and climate change.
He was very level-headed and had plenty of evidence to back up his stance.
Basically all down to a change in how the land is being managed now, or not, whichever viewpoint you take. He used Hawaii as an example. They had only just got the wildfires under control over there. Decades ago, they made a high percentage of their income from pineapple groves. Then they realised they could make more money more easily from tourism, so the pineapple groves largly become abandonded scrub land, a tinderbox in effect, and when it caught light, we had it all over the news as being attributed to "Climate Change"
He also said the very same scenario was taking place in the Med, lack of traditional management of the landscape.
You could say the same about muirburn over here, poorly thought-out policies from those organisations with an agenda who control the narrative.
Get used to it , this will become more common in years too come.
We got a licence this year for one fire. Roughly 20 x 50 yard.
Theres a huge fuel burden just sat getting dryer and dryer.
Sure we can cut where you can get with a tractor but it's not as effective .
Heather beetle has left thousands of acres of dead , dry heather that should be getting burned in a controlled way.
Rules made by people sat in Westminster who have no idea of the impact of not allowing controlled burning in the uplands.
IMHO it’s little to do with a changing climate and a lot to do with politics and well-meaning-be-kind folk driving land use change. Overly restricted muirburn, buying out land for rewilding/ RSPB etc. and you watch the fire load build up.
Looks like the politics up here ran out of road and they finally had to admit it was beyond their control. Then the media start to take an interest.
Sad.
Looks like the politics up here ran out of road and they finally had to admit it was beyond their control. Then the media start to take an interest.
Sad.
I've pals that have been fighting the fire on the moor near glossop for over a week. I can't recall which group it is but they have been very active in publicizing the role of the gamekeepers in fighting the fires and also the reasons there are no longer fire breaks. South yorkshire fire and resucue now have specialized kit such as 4x4s and argos purely for these incidents. Must be costing a fortune.
The fires and their continued spread are definitely on my radar. With friends who live in the Aviemore area, it's sadly all too frequent - especially on the unmanaged parts of the Cairngorm National Park. The problem is the fact that it didn't happen in Glasgow or Emburgh so none of our feckless poliitians are really interested.@opticron1 was complaining about the roads need fixing guess the fires are lower down his list
However the long running saga of the crap roads are just another never ending disaster for us in the Northern wastelands!
Rake Aboot
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It did happen in Edinburgh though, didn’t you watch the news ?
Well vote the right people in to sort it out lol Get Wee Krankie back
countrryboy
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I remember working out bush in Oz 30yrs ago. The volunteer rural firemen moaning big time about being restricted the amount of preventative burning they were allowed to do.
I think they also restricted logging and thinning the wojds too.
None of thus us any surprise, either stuff burning
Or the fact climate change us being solely blamed for it.
No mention of a thing else.
Some off thexenglish moorland groups as well as the Moorlabd Assoc, are pretty good at highlighting the amount of work keepers do fighting fires.
Their was a clip doing the rounds, I think on SGA site amongst others.
Anyway a lass moaning ( i perfume a keepers daughter? ) anoht Snp/Holywood niw paying attention and thanking keepers/farmers/ estates for their help on the fires
But ignoring them or actually going out of their way to make their life's/jobs harder the rest of year.
Pretty much everyone working in the uplands has predicting exactly this happening for years now.
I wonder how many million in grant money ( tax payers money) has went up in smoke on those 2 reserves?
I bet it could be in 10s. £££
With the country so skint we seriously need to be looking at some of these environmental schemes.
A lot of folk making some serious money from them
Not disagreeing that the Cairngorms fire is a disaster on many levels, however it's small in terms of area compared to the French and Spanish fires and hasn't threatenen major centers of population.
Malxwal
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I think the point here is that the BBC, especially in Jockistan, is discouraged from getting too interested in the results of disastrous land management policies in the tenure of the SNP. Far easier to deflect to a convenient event abroad, and just push the tired old "climate change" narrative.
On the whole I tend to agree with you but the climate has changed.
When I was a laddie in the 70s the Grampians were often covered in snow.
Not so much in recent years and when it arrives, it arrives fast and departs fast.
Forfar, my home town, used to be cut off frequently even after the A90 was dualled.
Not so much if hardly ever in recent years.
The snow melt would surely have kept moisture in dead matter longer.
Now there’s less snow but more rain leading to material drying out faster than in previous years.
Malxwal
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The climate has changed. It changes perpetually, outwith our sphere of influence. What we can influence is land management.
Freeforester
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Prevention is better than cure; solutions:
a) Proper heather management with common sense rather than top down regulation being used, and
b) condoms for the ‘Toolmaker’ and the other parents of the lanyard class.
a) Proper heather management with common sense rather than top down regulation being used, and
b) condoms for the ‘Toolmaker’ and the other parents of the lanyard class.
But has human actions speeded up that change?
1966 Glasgow airport opened up.
2024 there were 78k flights (in+out)
Having moved out of coal burning and the smogs of the 50s has aviation travel created something else?
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