Best all-round “calibre” aka chambering…

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tackb said:
do you mean me ?

I LOVE IT !

banana man , mellow yellow , the custard kid can all get in the bin from now on !

but sadly if you're hoping i'm getting worked up you'll be very disappointed x
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No no, only in jest. Provides for a rich and interesting thread
 
dunwater said:
Why is the short action such a big advantage?
A standard length action will take short cartridges, a short action cannot handle a standard cartridge, your cartridge options are limited.
I’ve heard all the theoretical reasons why short is better, but frankly they seem less than convincing.
More accurate, how much more and does it actually matter to anyone other than a skilled target shooter?
Faster to operate, how much faster and what’s the real world advantage?
Lighter, probably true but you’re talking ounces, again no real world impact.
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I wonder how many creedmoor owners who laud it for being a short action cartridge, shoot tikkas 🤦‍♂️
 
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dunwater said:
The Swede is more versatile and has a 10% edge in velocity. It was designed that way.
The Creed was designed to fulfil a single function. In terms of accuracy it has a slight advantage, very slight, but that edge makes a difference to the long range target shooter, it makes no difference to the stalker.
The availability of bullets from 90 to 156 grains including FMJ makes a difference, the Creed factory offerings are clustered at 140ish, less variety less flexibility.
The new boy may be slightly more accurate. That’s not enough on its own to make it better.
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Creed factory offerings start at 95 grains.
 
Love my 6.5x55, my first CF, shot my first deer with it.

But if I had to choose between it and my .280 I would choose the .280, as long as reloading is an option.

At some point, when people start buying houses again and construction pulls itself out of the doldrums, the swede barrel is getting changed for a 6.5x55 AI barrel. Then it’ll be a belter.
 
25 Sharps said:
Love my 6.5x55, my first CF, shot my first deer with it.

But if I had to choose between it and my .280 I would choose the .280, as long as reloading is an option.

At some point, when people start buying houses again and construction pulls itself out of the doldrums, the swede barrel is getting changed for a 6.5x55 AI barrel. Then it’ll be a belter.
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Plenty of houses still going up around here!
 
All of this discussion could be resolved by buying the Rigby finished 7x57/.275 in the for sale section. If I lived in the UK and could shoot right handed I'd own it already.
 
Rafter said:
All of this discussion could be resolved by buying the Rigby finished 7x57/.275 in the for sale section. If I lived in the UK and could shoot right handed I'd own it already.
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The poster has refinished the stock and metal work, so it’s not actually finished by Rigby anymore. It has hand checkering done by rigby, but that’s about it, otherwise it’s just a refinished Parker hale. It’s a pretty Parker hale, I’ll give it that!
 
25 Sharps said:
Love my 6.5x55, my first CF, shot my first deer with it.

But if I had to choose between it and my .280 I would choose the .280, as long as reloading is an option.

At some point, when people start buying houses again and construction pulls itself out of the doldrums, the swede barrel is getting changed for a 6.5x55 AI barrel. Then it’ll be a belter.
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Very cool! The shooter who got quite famous for talking about and maybe even part developing the 10 shot load development method shoots that too, i believe. What is the case capacity of it ? .-)
 
I’ve had a couple of AI’s and personally I find the extra capacity/fps less worth than the smoother feeding of less steeper angled original shoulders. This is based on 30-06 and its AI and .257 Robert’s and its AI variants.

AI also equals zero factory ammo on shelves of dealers
 
triggertrix said:
I’ve had a couple of AI’s and personally I find the extra capacity/fps less worth than the smoother feeding of less steeper angled original shoulders. This is based on 30-06 and its AI and .257 Robert’s and its AI variants.

AI also equals zero factory ammo on shelves of dealers
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I’ve had a k-hornet (similar principle) and have a .223 AI. Zero feed issues, plus lack of trimming is a big win (I don’t love case prep). Velocity gains are not massive but good for not a lot of increase in powder, and the kind of increase people often move up a cartridge for.

As for zero factory, it’s a none issue, firstly I reload and secondly ackley brass is formed by firing the standard cartridge so there’s plenty of factory.

But mostly, I just like different and I like speed 😂.

Ironically, Ackley didn’t think the 6.5x55 needed improving!
 
triggertrix said:
I’ve had a couple of AI’s and personally I find the extra capacity/fps less worth than the smoother feeding of less steeper angled original shoulders. This is based on 30-06 and its AI and .257 Robert’s and its AI variants.

AI also equals zero factory ammo on shelves of dealers
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yep, It seems that the "AI trade off" means that while you get a cool looking and pretty care cartridge, a larger case capacity and you have to trim less often you also have to fire form brass, likely reload and the AI cartridge might feed less slickly than its parent case.

25 Sharps said:
I’ve fancied one for a long time ( as above I like less common cartridges, hence the .280 and 25-45), picked up some fire at auction, just need the barrel now.
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well then the 6.5x55 AI might definitely be an option for you, i guess. I am not entirely sure, but i think satterlee mentioned in a video that he was shooting 140s at right around 3000 fps.
 
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