Best ir?.

[grumpy gary]

Hi all,
Which is the best ir to buy to use with a pulsar digex n450 night vision scope?.
The scope comes with its own ir, but it has no spot or zoom feature and I seem to be struggling with it. Maybe it’s just me, but A friend of a friend has said that I could get better results, he suggests a pair-s. I’ve emailed pbir and described my problems and they say that one of there ir’s would be better. I’d preferably like a ir with zoom and spot and also different power modes/ dimmable.
I’d just like some impartial suggestions before I part with any more cash.
Cheers Gary

 

[Herb64]

Hi all,
Which is the best ir to buy to use with a pulsar digex n450 night vision scope?.
The scope comes with its own ir, but it has no spot or zoom feature and I seem to be struggling with it. Maybe it’s just me, but A friend of a friend has said that I could get better results, he suggests a pair-s. I’ve emailed pbir and described my problems and they say that one of there ir’s would be better. I’d preferably like a ir with zoom and spot and also different power modes/ dimmable.
I’d just like some impartial suggestions before I part with any more cash.
Cheers Gary

Before I sold my Digex I struggled with the IR as most torches I tried produced whiteout. Used a Nightmaster turned right down in the end. Worked well.

 

[Orion]

PM @BLUEROLL on here as he has experimented with various IR solutions for the Digex.

 

[Ranger22]

RussDouglas222 on YouTube has a good video on different ir units. He did it along with mealiejimmy, an interesting watch. The Sirius ir, Solaris ir, Black sun dark engine ir and the wraith are worth looking at. More info can be had on the nightvision forum

 

[Orion]

The Sirius ir, Solaris ir, Black sun dark engine ir and the wraith are worth looking at. More info can be had on the nightvision forum

The ‘standard’ 850nm versions of the VCSEL IRS are too powerful for the Digex and create mucho whiteout. Hopefully @BLUEROLL will be along to give us his findings with the 940nm units.

 

[Ranger22]

The ‘standard’ 850nm versions of the VCSEL IRS are too powerful for the Digex and create mucho whiteout. Hopefully @BLUEROLL will be along to give us his findings with the 940nm units.

Ah, didn’t know that
I believe a new 940nm is possibly coming out soon.

 

[mealiejimmy]

AFAIK, Blueroll reckons a 940nm vcsel based IR with variable power and adjustable from flood to spot does work with the Digex, but it doesn't take much to overpower the sensor in the and make it white out.
Ludicrous Lumens Wraith IR is available with a 940nm pill, infinitely variable power and a choice of x2 or x3 lens
The Night Vision Store do the BlackSun Dark Engine in 940nm, but I think it only has lo/med/hi power control

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Woodmister]

Pbir l or Solaris srx are the best I have used.

 

[Steve3250]

Laserlurchs best one I have ever used

 

[Orion]

Guys, the VCSEL IRs are the way to go with the Pard’s etc. but simply too powerful for the Digex - and that is what the OP is about.

 

[G4ZZ]

I've been doing a lot of research recently and have also spoken to Paul Baker who is Pbir as I've ordered a Pbir S to go with a Digisight I have on the way thanks to Herb.
Pbir L is more suited to the pard 007, 008 and wraith.
Pbir X for the photon Xt and RT.
Pbir S is better suited to the Digisight N450/N455 and Digex due to the highly sensitive processors.
So using the higher rated L, X and even a wicked light ir will cause your Digisight and Digex to white out as they have such a sensitive and high resolution processor.
So your better off with a lower power ir, but even though it's a lower power you will get a better and clearer picture through your scope.

 

[Clive Ward]

Hi All,

For dedicated scopes, the IR has to be set to fill the field of view. Lasers and Sunnranger derivatives are pointless and actually produce less overall power because of the extra lenses.

For 4x mag dedicated the Black Sun 2, B22 will give the best performance currently for most people, but if you want better definition and more range using the higher magnifications then the BR20 Black Sun Ruby is the one to go for. Both of these are significantly smaller, lighter and cheaper than the unecessary 'wonder illuminators' too.

Black Sun 2 B22

Black Sun Ruby BR20


Cheers





Clive

 

[joed]

Hi All,

For dedicated scopes, the IR has to be set to fill the field of view. Lasers and Sunnranger derivatives are pointless and actually produce less overall power because of the extra lenses.

For 4x mag dedicated the Black Sun 2, B22 will give the best performance currently for most people, but if you want better definition and more range using the higher magnifications then the BR20 Black Sun Ruby is the one to go for. Both of these are significantly smaller, lighter and cheaper than the unecessary 'wonder illuminators' too.

Black Sun 2 B22

Black Sun Ruby BR20


Cheers





Clive

Hi Clive,

Has this been tested with the digex?

Cheers
Joe

 

[BLUEROLL]

Hi All,

For dedicated scopes, the IR has to be set to fill the field of view. Lasers and Sunnranger derivatives are pointless and actually produce less overall power because of the extra lenses.

For 4x mag dedicated the Black Sun 2, B22 will give the best performance currently for most people, but if you want better definition and more range using the higher magnifications then the BR20 Black Sun Ruby is the one to go for. Both of these are significantly smaller, lighter and cheaper than the unecessary 'wonder illuminators' too.

Black Sun 2 B22

Black Sun Ruby BR20


Cheers





Clive

Clive.
I must admit to not having tried the Black Sun 2 B22/Black Sun Ruby BR20 and not sure I will as your Dark Engine 940nm (3 mode) is probably the best I have tried so far and even the max mode is too much. Also of course the 940nm is more covert and no discernible glow in low and medium power levels.

 

[PJK]

i have got a pbir s you can have for £80 posted if your interested like new

 

[Tikkat3xl]

I use the Solaris srx with my photo rt, use it on flood and it works flawlessly with no whiteout

 

[20-250]

I use the Solaris srx with my photo rt, use it on flood and it works flawlessly with no whiteout

Digex is far more sensitive to IR than your Photon RT.

 

[Tikkat3xl]

Digex is far more sensitive to IR than your Photon RT.

I stand corrected

 

[20-250]

I stand corrected

Don't get me wrong, the SRX is a great illuminator but it's just too much for the Digex.

 

[Herb64]

i have got a pbir s you can have for £80 posted if your interested like new

You have a PM