Best two-wheel drive offroad
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I must admit to only reading a few posts on here but the topic to me seems very stupid.
No 2 wheel drive will ever be reliable off road as even with x4 they can and do get stuck.
Buy a x4 wheel drive or walk !! Getting people to come and pull you out will soon use up all your friends.
Also worth noting is 4 wheel drives have clearance and a build for the fields/tracks, x2 stick to the tarmac or your repair bills would soon pay for a proper off roader.
Just my opinion (you must have heard of horses for courses).
A susuki size jeep shouldn't be alot dearer to run than a car.
No 2 wheel drive will ever be reliable off road as even with x4 they can and do get stuck.
Buy a x4 wheel drive or walk !! Getting people to come and pull you out will soon use up all your friends.
Also worth noting is 4 wheel drives have clearance and a build for the fields/tracks, x2 stick to the tarmac or your repair bills would soon pay for a proper off roader.
Just my opinion (you must have heard of horses for courses).
A susuki size jeep shouldn't be alot dearer to run than a car.
jammiedodger
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not sure what the best 2wd car is `spose it really does depend on the driver. In my mind its a toss up between my polish neighbour who drives his VW Passat in 18" of snow like he`s out for a sunday jolly or 3 pikey`s and a couple of lurchers in a transit tipper, those bast**ds will get anywhere!
Oly
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I think if you read it fully you would find it's actually a bit more like reality/practicality based. We're not talking about shooting in the extremes of the countryside/moor, nor are we talking about professional use - although that said we have highlighted that even the FC rangers ran 2WD's for a long long time. But if most of your permissions are drained better than the average golf course...why use a 4x4?
Hi All
23years ago when me and my mate were doing a bit of part time keepering for the school of infantry shoot on salisbury plain we had an old renault 4 and that got us all over the plain lamping, never once got stuck.We then had a rear engined skoda and we removed the bonnet lid and i used to sit in there and shoot never got that stuck either, great days
Geordie
23years ago when me and my mate were doing a bit of part time keepering for the school of infantry shoot on salisbury plain we had an old renault 4 and that got us all over the plain lamping, never once got stuck.We then had a rear engined skoda and we removed the bonnet lid and i used to sit in there and shoot never got that stuck either, great days
Geordie
Hornet 6
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I have a thwates 15 hwt 2wd dumper it will go just about anyware it may not be fast but it has a big bootand lots of fresh air and big tyres.
Bob.
I have one of them as well, although I wouldn't describe it as that good for traction
I have lost count of the times I have had to go and get the quad to pull it out.
Neil.
reiver
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That could just be the nut on the end of the steering that wheel needs fixingI have one of them as well, although I wouldn't describe it as that good for traction
I have lost count of the times I have had to go and get the quad to pull it out.
Neil.
Bob.
I have rewound the old memory cells a little, & can remember bringing the cows in, driving around in a Morris Minor...... aged 14, until I reversed onto a frostbound brick in a gateway fill, resulting in a punctured petrol tank,
Hornet 6
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That could just be the nut on the end of the steering that wheel needs fixing
Bob.
Yes I suppose yours could be faulty.
If the going is soft you need more than 1 wheel drive I find.
The little 15cwt would not move loaded or unloaded over this ground, this on the other hand had no problems.
Light or with 12 tons on board.
Neil.
Orion
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Thought I'd resurrect this 2wd thread after having had a pair of el cheapo 'mud 'n' snow' tyres fitted to the front end of one of our Berlingo Multispaces. Okay, the previous street Michelins were getting a bit on the worn side, but the difference in traction across the fields is nothing short of amazing. At £53 a pop I'd put them on the other Berlingos for winter running if we could get some, but I guess the current weather conditions have made them as rare as the proverbial rocking horse crap at the moment.
I did exactly the same at the beginning of last winter on my wife's Peugeot Expert (incidentally an excellent car/van hybrid) and it was wicked in the snow. Tyres is everything. (Still prefer my hilux though)
Tamus
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View attachment 3877Tyres and technique.
For the uninformed: The best technique involves; using high gears and low revs, so as to try and avoid wheelspin or breaking traction. Maintain momentum (appropriate speed) until stopping is simply unavoidable and anticipate well ahead of every action. Act smoothly and progressively at all times. That pretty much covers technique. All of which will tend to get f~*k'd-up by every other numpty on the road, as they try burning their way down to the tarmac with ridiculous wheelspin and suchlike antics. Which they seem to enjoy doing while they sit there engulfed in steam and smoke, going nowhere.
For tyres, Insa-turbo Sahara are the best mud and snow pluggers I've had yet, that still give something of an acceptable tarmac performance too.
For the uninformed: The best technique involves; using high gears and low revs, so as to try and avoid wheelspin or breaking traction. Maintain momentum (appropriate speed) until stopping is simply unavoidable and anticipate well ahead of every action. Act smoothly and progressively at all times. That pretty much covers technique. All of which will tend to get f~*k'd-up by every other numpty on the road, as they try burning their way down to the tarmac with ridiculous wheelspin and suchlike antics. Which they seem to enjoy doing while they sit there engulfed in steam and smoke, going nowhere.
For tyres, Insa-turbo Sahara are the best mud and snow pluggers I've had yet, that still give something of an acceptable tarmac performance too.
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Orion
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They look a bit too full-on radical for the type of daily use I do. The ones I've managed to get aren't too far away from normal-use tyres but have more tread blocks with extra cuts and slight angularities in them. I presume the compound must be a bit softer and the construction more flexible. A tiny bit noisier at Mway speeds but that's more than compensated for by the extra grip on soft ground.
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Tamus
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Fair enough, but I'm OFF road more than I'm on it. So far, these babies manage 18" level snow (over ice and mud) in the fields and farm tracks no problem at all and I'm not talking rally speed either, just puttering about doing the rounds. They're surprisingly quiet on-road too.... and they only cost £60 each. My only problem on-road is... well y'know... other people...
Orion
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Which side of the carriageway are we talking? Or is it pedestrians on the path getting in the way?
Tamus
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You've seen some freestyle driving then?The most interesting so-far this winter was whanging (sorry, making my way appropriately) round a corner on a narrow back road and down over a bridge at the bottom of a gully and needing a bit of "pace" to get up the other side, only to find a family out sledging in the snow -in the middle of the road- and half way doon said other side... Wide enough bankings were available, so I didn't have to take drastic measures, like actually stopping... for instance. Not that they had a ghost of a chance of doing anything about it.
Presumably, since they were out walking (and sledging) they figured no-one could possibly be out driving. Bliddy ijits.
I don't know what happens to people's heads when the snow falls or are they that vacuous all the time, but I just don't usually encounter them?
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