Camo or No?

[Oldbutnew]

Went all in with the Sig Cross, Cerakoted everything and better than black IMO

 

[HonestJohn]

Lovin' It John .
Start writin' the book...

I have already.
45 years ago I hunted with a bloke that knew far more than I ever did and he said to me one day "johnny you just dont stop asking fuucking questions" as if it was annoying him.

I retorted " hey you are the fuucking Prof of deer,who better to ask"

He smiled really smugly ha ha.

Moral of the story is "listen"

Every I time I make a hunting error. I look to the sky and and laugh and say, yeah Dad, should have listened to you! similarly, when things go right, I say, I ok know you’re proud of me now. Yep, listen to those who ‘know’. . Wisdom doesn’t come in five minutes with a carbon stocked R8 and an expensive Swaro scope with ballistic turrets.

 

[Oldbutnew]

Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting a tomato in fruit salad.

 

[John Gryphon]

Wisdom doesn’t come in five minutes with a carbon stocked R8 and an expensive Swaro scope with ballistic turrets.

There are those on here that would argue that....ooh I would love to drop them off up high and advise "it will only take you an hour to walk through" And then pick them up on dark 10 hours later lol. Non beer drinkers swill it after a day like that ha ha ha.

Heres a heads up, get dropped off at the green and hunt through to the red. Been in there a lot of times and it can be a right royal **** too lol. No pea crops in there.

 

[Mungo]

So my solution is shoot late as the facts in the last 8 fallow 7 were in the last 20 mins of light so I void the camo debate by standing still (in the middle of a open field) using the lack of light also the wind. It is no different to cutting a fox off as it is taking fallow following the lead doe. People seem to want to make things complicated when in fact it not, the more complex the plan the more to go wrong. The last fallow I shot on this new ground we sat for 45 mins tucked out the way until one was in range, up on the sticks less than 6 seconds it was falling over.
It works the farmer is over the moon so hurry up August lol

So we’re astonishingly largely in agreement: camo doesn’t really matter compared to fieldcraft and an awareness of the conditions and the animal you’re trying to shoot…

 

[Oldbutnew]

I’m sure there a lot of ex military on here but I won’t bore you with “why things are seen” but from my experience, Lynx Christmas deodorant is a no no.

 

[John Gryphon]

So we’re astonishingly largely in agreement: camo doesn’t really matter compared to fieldcraft and an awareness of the conditions and the animal you’re trying to shoot…

compared to fieldcraft and an awareness of the conditions and the animal you’re trying to shoot… Add camo to that and you are then at an advantage over those that decry it.

 

[Tim.243]

So we’re astonishingly largely in agreement: camo doesn’t really matter compared to fieldcraft and an awareness of the conditions and the animal you’re trying to shoot…

No I think we are poles apart, I have a front net on all but one of my high seats (waiting to fit it) as over time in many estate seats (for fallow) I found you can't sit in the ready position over 3 1/2 hrs so tend to slump back, fallow clocked me moving my legs as that is the lowest part of me and bounced off. A very good example I took a leaf out of my pigeon shooting as you/people don't sit in a seat without a net reducing your movement.

Do I think a camo stock makes any difference to my stalking, No

 

[Mungo]

No I think we are poles apart, I have a front net on all but one of my high seats (waiting to fit it) as over time in many estate seats (for fallow) I found you can't sit in the ready position over 3 1/2 hrs so tend to slump back, fallow clocked me moving my legs as that is the lowest part of me and bounced off.

Exactly my point - movement is the issue, not the colour you're wearing. Plus netting isn't camo, it's concealment. And 100% agree is extremely effective - because it screens movement. If you could sit dead still for 4 hours, you wouldn't need it.

A very good example I took a leaf out of my pigeon shooting as you/people don't sit in a seat without a net reducing your movement.

Yup. Concealing movement is key. But again - that's not camo, that's concealment.

 

[Tim.243]

Exactly my point - movement is the issue, not the colour you're wearing. Plus netting isn't camo, it's concealment. And 100% agree is extremely effective - because it screens movement. If you could sit dead still for 4 hours, you wouldn't need it.

Yup. Concealing movement is key. But again - that's not camo, that's concealment.

One bit you missed...
Do I think a camo stock makes any difference to my stalking, No (as the stocks are black)

 

[John Gryphon]

not the colour you're wearing.

You come on down to sunny Oz and show me this with sambar deer. Official invite...no need to bring cams just your cricket creams.

 

[Mungo]

One bit you missed...
Do I think a camo stock makes any difference to my stalking, No (as the stocks are black)

Well, didn’t miss. Agree with entirely. Didn’t see the need to comment.