can a driving offence effect my firearms (THIS IS NOT DRINK DRIVING)

[DEAN.G]

can anybody tell me if my police have the right to revoke my firearms certificate if i am convicted of driving without due care and attention or dangerous driving cheers.

 

[splash]

Dangerous driving will more than likely take your tickets ! It can be taken that you are not a fit person to hold a Firearm.
The Police have a duty to remove your Certs if you COULD be a danger to the public


Get them to a RFD asap

 

[eldon]

Not sure about driving without due care but would expect some comment at the least for dangerous driving. It shows you are not a responsible or reliable person in the eyes of the law.

Yes I know we all make errors and it might not be correct but their number one priority is the publics safety.

 

[DJC]

There,s a bit of a difference between due care and DD. can you give more details please

 

[csl]

can anybody tell me if my police have the right to revoke my firearms certificate if i am convicted of driving without due care and attention or dangerous driving cheers.

There is nothing in law which prohibits you outright from holding an FAC if you are convicted of either of those offences (unless there is > 3 months prison time involved in the case of DD in which case the 7 year exclusion might apply) however, depending upon the circumstances, it could certainly provide them with good reason to believe that you are no longer suitable.

For example, I know someone who was done for Driving Without Due Care (he accidentally cut someone up on the motorway and caused a minor accident), got points and a fine at magistrates court. Nothing was brought up until his renewal when he declared it and got a bit of a grilling but nothing more.

Dangerous driving usually means an element of recklessness/intent involved though....

Nothing is set in stone... It's all case by case. Get some good legal advice and as stated, think about maybe storing your firearms just case.

 

[Frank Homes]

Dean. G

It helps to be 'up front' about these things rather than generalise. But the police would have to assimilate the circumstances and decide whether the particular behaviour was sufficient to construe that your possession of a firearm would make you a danger to public safety or unfitted to possess such a firearm. No need to store at RFD yet.

Frank

 

[DEAN.G]

hit a wall on way back from being out with lamp police interviewed me about it all insured and legal on that this is just the letter they sent me saying what road they could be going down when i go to see them in the new year and at the end of the day day anyone can have a bump in there motor

 

[JWB72]

don't take any chances, like Splash said get them to a RFD asap if they revoke certificate they could put a destruction order on your guns, until everything is sorted.

best of luck JWB

 

[csl]

hit a wall on way back from being out with lamp police interviewed me about it all insured and legal on that this is just the letter they sent me saying what road they could be going down when i go to see them in the new year and at the end of the day day anyone can have a bump in there motor

What does the letter say? Did they actually serve you with a notice of intent to prosecute?

 

[Frank Homes]

Jwb
They can't put any destruction order on his guns
Frank

 

[bewsher500]

hit a wall on way back from being out with lamp police interviewed me about it all insured and legal on that this is just the letter they sent me saying what road they could be going down when i go to see them in the new year and at the end of the day day anyone can have a bump in there motor

ALL incidences of RTA involve negligence or blame and can result in a prosecution for "driving without due care and attention"
the reason they don't is the mountain of paperwork it would generate

unless the 3rd party is chasing the police or there are more details you have on "the wall you hit" I would say its a muscle flexing admin letter following an interview.
after all they have to follow up an interview

unless there are more circumstances relating to excess speed, multi tasking (phone, burgers, cigarette, changing the tape!) or something else I would say DWDCAA would be harsh.

equally revocation would have to be applied for and proved to be in the public's best interest.
for a single offence? I would say it is unlikely....but like I say....more detail needed

 

[limulus]

Unless somebody else was involved I cant see where the public interest would be to prosecute.
Ensure the police know your in sewer ants will pay out for the damage, send the landowner a letter of apology, and hope the police have better things to do.

 

[DEAN.G]

it says this letter is to give you notice that it is intended to institute proceedings against you but at the bottom of the letter it says that i may not be prosecuted.

 

[pheasant sniper 1]

don't take any chances, like Splash said get them to a RFD asap if they revoke certificate they could put a destruction order on your guns, until everything is sorted.

best of luck JWB

Are you serious...

So they put a destruction order on your guns which are then destroyed...
4 months later its all resolved so what do they do ?? Give you the pieces back..

Thats a load of rubbish mate..

Dean, as an fac holder i would guess as with anything these days theres a set procedure they need to follow to tick the boxes their end..

If all is as you say i cant see youve that much to be worrying about..

 

[bewsher500]

it says this letter is to give you notice that it is intended to institute proceedings against you but at the bottom of the letter it says that i may not be prosecuted.

sounds like a stock follow up
"you were silly,
we bollcked you,
we are now writing to tell you that we bollocked you but ..
we may come back to you for some more bollocking ....
so your arse will be twitching every time you get in the car and you drive more carefully"

 

[pheasant sniper 1]

sounds like a stock follow up
"you were silly,
we bollcked you,
we are now writing to tell you that we bollocked you but ..
we may come back to you for some more bollocking ....
so your arse will be twitching every time you get in the car and you drive more carefully"

in one lol

 

[limulus]

Standard letter in the 'Put-the-fear-of-God-up-em' directory
Often called 'twitchum-sphinctum.doc'

 

[csl]

Well I'm no expert, but that letter is surely a written notice of intent to prosecute which means they have satisfied their legal requirement IF they want to take it further. They now have 6 months I think with which to issue a summons.

I would read up over on this site and maybe ask some advice as to the likely outcome: http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=5

It does sound a bit OTT to be honest if the circumstances really are as simple as you have made out. You should definitely consider taking some professional legal advice though and before you speak to them again. I presume when you said 'in the new year' they have said they want to interview you?

 

[scubadog]

Whatever you do don't accept a caution for it.
A good solicitor will sort it out im quite sure....I would advise against using the duty solicitor, they just want an easy life in my opinion.
Tell the solictior about your FAC and they will fight it accordingly.
Don't make it easy for them during questioning.....police will try and talk you into a submission one way or another...They like an easy life too.

 

[news of the world]

it says this letter is to give you notice that it is intended to institute proceedings against you but at the bottom of the letter it says that i may not be prosecuted.

Hopefully you are member of one of the shooting organisations, they will offer sound advice.

As Scubadog says Do not accept a Caution, no matter what they say!