Cheap safes are really not secure

[Alantoo]

Just reading the above posts, so what is a good ammo safe and cabinet?

I'm looking for a bigger cabinet so keen to know your thoughts

Given that nothing made by man cannot be unmade by man! (with the appropriate tools). And that most likely it will be an opportunistic theft rather than a raid specifically after your weapons...

Arguably the most secure system is the one that is most convenient for you to use.

It is demonstrably much more secure to have your rifle in a lightweight Brattonsound cabinet and your keys in a cheap digital safe, rather than be tempted to leave it propped up in the corner because you are "going out again after lunch and could not be bothered to take it up to your concrete and steel vault in the attic".

The inconvenience to the shooter is the greater security risk I believe….I think the latest advice to store your bolts in a separate cabinet is poor for the same reason. Anything that inhibits your putting it out of ready access is bad news.

Alan

 

[Sabian223]

BSA Extra Deep Gun Safes | Uttings.co.uk I've got a Bsa 8 gun cabinet with locking top and separate laptop ammo safe. The cabinet is very well made and anyone would have a hard time getting into it. For £260 i cant grumble!

 

[palmer_mike]

Just tried the slap on top technique. My hand hurts but the safe remained secure. Maybe having the safe securely bolted in makes a difference?

 

[FGYT]

Just tried the slap on top technique. My hand hurts but the safe remained secure. Maybe having the safe securely bolted in makes a difference?

Um yes it relies on getting the Safe to bounce so transferring the Energy to the solenoid this can only happen if the safe is not fixed at all or poorly fixed or fixed to a poor Sub-straight ie wood that has some flex

 

[sauer]

So basically if it's bolted down tight ( as it should be in 1st place) it shouldn't do that

 

[simonl]

So basically if it's bolted down tight ( as it should be in 1st place) it shouldn't do that

Correct. My batteries died so I was using the key for a while. The key lock then failed so I tried some of the youtube techniques. I got in eventually, mainly using brute force, but it was neither quick nor quiet.

Edit: And the safe was a write-off

 

[flatliner]

Out of curiosity. I've just tried the method on the video to try and open mine......... didn't work. And before anyone suggests that I hit like a girl, I hit hard enough to dislodge the batteries.

The main thing is my FEO was out not that long ago, and he was happy enough with the set up. At the end of the day, if someone is determined to get in to your cabinet/safe there are ways to do so pretty easily.

 

[tozzybum]

true ,we use cobalt drills at work and they eat metal .Also we sold makita cordless disc cutters and had a salesman boasting how secure his chain/padlock combo was for quad bikes,the head buyer said test it so i did .30 seconds and his hardened chain was 2 shorter chains ,red faced salesman left with his tail between his legs.for every new security product there,s a new antidote as it were.