Clipex fencing system for deer
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This is true it will corode, but it will see me out haha each 9' post is the same price as a creosoted 9' 4" give or take a pence or two.
johndeere
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Clipex is now becoming more popular among fencing contractors the strainers are expensive I would go with pressure treated creosote strainers (15-30 year life span) and clipex inters and clipex wire.
Don’t know how it would stand up to areas that take pressure, gathering areas and pressure points on race ways.
On flat parkland and farmland it would be great wouldn’t like to use it round us like fencing over a egg tray to much undulating ground would struggle to keep the inters in the ground if there was any tension on the wire.
Try this forum very helpful bunch of chaps. Farm Fencing Talk
Don’t know how it would stand up to areas that take pressure, gathering areas and pressure points on race ways.
On flat parkland and farmland it would be great wouldn’t like to use it round us like fencing over a egg tray to much undulating ground would struggle to keep the inters in the ground if there was any tension on the wire.
Try this forum very helpful bunch of chaps. Farm Fencing Talk
Leadwasp
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Friend of mine manages a huge flock and raves about Clipex. It is only used to about 4' height so I can't comment on the deer side of things. We're still overrun with fallow. Haven't seen any more than usual getting hung up so it doesn't seem a bad innovation on the welfare front.
pitiliedon
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It may need developed a bit more to use for deer. On flat ground , well strainer'd might be useful but on broken ground especially with titan one piece net I think you'd have to use strainers instead of posts to hold the net where there was a lot of vertical pressure. This would probably make the cost prohibitive. Also if 2o deer bounce -off the one piece net supported by wooden stobs , you generally break a couple of posts which is usually enough give to spare the net and the posts could just be replaced.
Also save the anti's carrying wire cutters , they just have to un-clip fence and lay it down.
Also save the anti's carrying wire cutters , they just have to un-clip fence and lay it down.
countrryboy
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I done a bit with those steel 'wharata' post years ago out in OZ althou never had the clipex system then, either threaded line wires throu holes in post or tied them on to the posts. Go in ok with those pneumatic things, boss also had some tractors rigged up with a hydralic man crate/s on front so u could drive posts in with a jack hammer with a special bit, the tractors with 2 baskets where for vine yard fencing putting 2 lines up at once. He also had a couple of old county's that pulled 2 chappers on a trailer so could rive 2 posts at same time, cracking home made set up for the vineyards
The reason they use metal posts out in oz is timber psts split so steeples come out
I take it the strainers are conreted in? That will be ur major problem as metal doesnae grip the ground the same as timber so unless concreted in with a foot on will just pull out.
As has been mentoned any slope willl make it hard to clip nets on unless u had ur posts at 90 to ground and not plumb.
Also stocking densities in oz are tiny compared to here so how i stands up to the pressure over time. And how lon the clips last for, even the difference in climates might make a difference
Being honest if i was erecting any new fences nowadys i'd really try and put atleast 1 strand of electric instead of barb, u just don't get stock/beasts leaning and rubbing themselves on the posts and pushing fence over, last far longer
The reason they use metal posts out in oz is timber psts split so steeples come out
I take it the strainers are conreted in? That will be ur major problem as metal doesnae grip the ground the same as timber so unless concreted in with a foot on will just pull out.
As has been mentoned any slope willl make it hard to clip nets on unless u had ur posts at 90 to ground and not plumb.
Also stocking densities in oz are tiny compared to here so how i stands up to the pressure over time. And how lon the clips last for, even the difference in climates might make a difference
Being honest if i was erecting any new fences nowadys i'd really try and put atleast 1 strand of electric instead of barb, u just don't get stock/beasts leaning and rubbing themselves on the posts and pushing fence over, last far longer
Boarboy
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I've put a bit up myself, plus some with the contractor. All these things have pros and cons! As stated the end strain assemblies are expensive, and most people are using standard strainers and boxes with clipex intermediates. The fence net has to be strained prior to posting as doing the other way round the net catches in the clip notches, and you'll be walking up and down un snagging and cursing! Works best with an electric top wire, and small plastic attachments are available. Doesn't work that well hitting stone or stoney ground, the odd one will just bend. The beefy posts are pretty good.
countrryboy
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I imagine it will also be a pain in slightly undulating ground, normally with timber posts really easy to put tie downs in to keep posts down in the hollows, be a pain with that stuff and the metal posts will be more prone to pull out of ground too.
But be ways and means if u have too thou
Boarboy. Wot do u think of it? Will it stand the test of time compared to normal fencing?
But be ways and means if u have too thou
Boarboy. Wot do u think of it? Will it stand the test of time compared to normal fencing?
I'm just down the road (200km) of the main shop & HQ at Tamworth NSW. I've never seen it used by any farmer not just deer farmers & no one has ever gotten back to me with pricing when I have enquired about using it, so I can only assume that it's not even close to being cost competitive, even with the labour savings. I have seen advertorials where it has been used on large Govt funded projects (100 000 acre pest exclusion fences), but not as a stock fence on any working farms. I like the knot they use as its the standard game knot but lately I have gone back to using hinge joint on low pressure areas for deer as its almost half the price of "game fence". I can do a bottom run of 8/90/15 & top it with 7/90/30 made from double galvanised 2.5mm wire for less than $3 per m. It would be interesting to hear what it costs in the UK for similar?
First thing to say is that I have never used Clipex but I have done the deer fencing on over 70 properties; farms and parks. The concept does interest me because it is almost impossible to get hold of timber posts that are properly treated now that CCA has been banned. Creosote is, as far as I know, the only viable alternative and I am a bit suspicious that even that is not as it used to be. To make the enclosing of deer cost effective I think you need at least 25 years life out of your fence. We know that 35 was possible with properly prepared CCA posts.
Clipex would seem to be viable on easy going but I cannot for the life of me see how it would cope with difficult terrain, for example gullies 40 feet deep, lots of turning points along riverbanks etc. If the posts were not put in at 90 degrees to the ground the line wires would not match the fixing slots. If you are supposed to do the whole tensioning process before fixing this would be impossible over very undulating ground; well maybe not impossible but would take a lot of walking to and fro propping netting up temporarily whilst getting the tension.
I also find it hard to believe that their strainer posts can be up to the task, but happy to learn otherwise.
It would be great to hear from anybody who has used it for deer and hear their comments.
Clipex would seem to be viable on easy going but I cannot for the life of me see how it would cope with difficult terrain, for example gullies 40 feet deep, lots of turning points along riverbanks etc. If the posts were not put in at 90 degrees to the ground the line wires would not match the fixing slots. If you are supposed to do the whole tensioning process before fixing this would be impossible over very undulating ground; well maybe not impossible but would take a lot of walking to and fro propping netting up temporarily whilst getting the tension.
I also find it hard to believe that their strainer posts can be up to the task, but happy to learn otherwise.
It would be great to hear from anybody who has used it for deer and hear their comments.
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