That’s not a deer!?

Donkey Basher

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Stalking into a ladder last evening to cover a small field between two bits of woodland often frequented by the fallow, I used the thermal to check ahead & picked up a heat source deep in the wood. I’m moving well into wind so keep tight to the wide hedge line & on towards the ladder.

Suddenly I do a double take, there’s something dark inside the wood - fallow! Thermal up to see if it’s on its own & wtf! There are two heat sources, one on four legs the other on two… Look again & it’s a flat coat retriever off the lead & a guy in a blue jacket who comes out of the wood & turns towards the other wood 🤬

Abandoning the stalk, I unload, remove the mag & put it all in my jacket pocket before setting out across the field. The guy seems to pick up his pace as he sees me but then realises he isn’t going to make the other wood before I cut him off. I put the rifle up against the hedge along with the sticks & wait for him to come to me before asking what he thinks he’s doing there.

It seems he’s house/dog sitting at a house in a little hamlet ‘in the middle of nowhere’ locally & had been told it was fine to walk the dog here. A quick explanation about what I was doing there, what the implications for his safety were & that there could easily be stalkers out there any day of the week as one of our team is retired & two of us work shifts. He tried the ‘I was on the path’ routine until I asked him where exactly he thought the path was as there clearly isn’t one.

When I asked him where exactly he'd been because there was no point me trying to shoot deer in an area he'd already been through with the dog he said just down the hedgerow I was on, along the ride to the end of the wood & then back again the same way. Hmm 🤔 if that was the case why was he heading back in a different direction when I caught him? The direction he was going would take him back in a circular route to the house he was ‘sitting’ so I reckoned he’d been a bit further than he admitted to.

With a flea in his ear & a request for him to let the house owners know that neither they nor anyone else was allowed to wander around the farm, he went on his way while I decided whether to stick with Plan A as fallow are transient & he might not have spooked them or work out a Plan B. Given the time I decided to sit tight & see what happened. Turned out to be a good call as I managed to catch up with a Muntjac later in the evening, although no sign of the fallow I was after.

As a follow up, speaking to one of the other guys who lives in the same ‘middle of nowhere’ hamlet it turns out the same chap had been caught on, & thrown off, land the other side from the house that very morning. Spoke to the landowner this morning & he's going to be writing to the house owners reminding them there’s no ‘right to roam’ - it’s been about 4 years since he had to do this after the same dog & a different walker appeared in the background of the sight picture just as a muntjac was about to get the good news… in the middle of a wood, no paths or rides anywhere near… 😳

Be safe out there folks!
 
Stalking into a ladder last evening to cover a small field between two bits of woodland often frequented by the fallow, I used the thermal to check ahead & picked up a heat source deep in the wood. I’m moving well into wind so keep tight to the wide hedge line & on towards the ladder.

Suddenly I do a double take, there’s something dark inside the wood - fallow! Thermal up to see if it’s on its own & wtf! There are two heat sources, one on four legs the other on two… Look again & it’s a flat coat retriever off the lead & a guy in a blue jacket who comes out of the wood & turns towards the other wood 🤬

Abandoning the stalk, I unload, remove the mag & put it all in my jacket pocket before setting out across the field. The guy seems to pick up his pace as he sees me but then realises he isn’t going to make the other wood before I cut him off. I put the rifle up against the hedge along with the sticks & wait for him to come to me before asking what he thinks he’s doing there.

It seems he’s house/dog sitting at a house in a little hamlet ‘in the middle of nowhere’ locally & had been told it was fine to walk the dog here. A quick explanation about what I was doing there, what the implications for his safety were & that there could easily be stalkers out there any day of the week as one of our team is retired & two of us work shifts. He tried the ‘I was on the path’ routine until I asked him where exactly he thought the path was as there clearly isn’t one.

When I asked him where exactly he'd been because there was no point me trying to shoot deer in an area he'd already been through with the dog he said just down the hedgerow I was on, along the ride to the end of the wood & then back again the same way. Hmm 🤔 if that was the case why was he heading back in a different direction when I caught him? The direction he was going would take him back in a circular route to the house he was ‘sitting’ so I reckoned he’d been a bit further than he admitted to.

With a flea in his ear & a request for him to let the house owners know that neither they nor anyone else was allowed to wander around the farm, he went on his way while I decided whether to stick with Plan A as fallow are transient & he might not have spooked them or work out a Plan B. Given the time I decided to sit tight & see what happened. Turned out to be a good call as I managed to catch up with a Muntjac later in the evening, although no sign of the fallow I was after.

As a follow up, speaking to one of the other guys who lives in the same ‘middle of nowhere’ hamlet it turns out the same chap had been caught on, & thrown off, land the other side from the house that very morning. Spoke to the landowner this morning & he's going to be writing to the house owners reminding them there’s no ‘right to roam’ - it’s been about 4 years since he had to do this after the same dog & a different walker appeared in the background of the sight picture just as a muntjac was about to get the good news… in the middle of a wood, no paths or rides anywhere near… 😳

Be safe out there folks!
Welcome to Scotland.
 
Similarish experience this morning. Had been out for a stalk in commercial woodland - a mix of age classes from mature to recently felled and restocked.

After an unsuccessful 2.5 hours in squally winds and blustery showers I was returning to the truck and had one last spy over the valley and spotted 2 roe like heat sources in the thermal. Watched them moving for a wee bit and was just about to stich to optical mode when a very human heat source appear about 50m behind. Switched to optical to identified 2 large Irish wolfhounds.

Scotland so no point discussing. Packed up and went home. Think yourself lucky!!
 
Had a similar experience on Saturday. One of the spots I shoot has a footpath running through it however where I shoot is way off of it and well away from any public access.

Shot a Red in the morning, plenty more about so decided to go back for an evening stalk. started heading to my spot and found a heat source in the woods just off the field and into a no go forestry commission plot, looked about deer size from 750 yards away. Rght lets get to my spot and fingers crossed its out eating in the field when I get into position.

Arrive at my spot, the heat source has got somewhat bigger and looks strange in the thermal, take a look with some glass. I can see something glowing and dancing through the bushes. its a fire! some bugger is up here way way off the beaten track with a fire, right where the deer love to be and cross in and out of the forestry into my permission. to make it more funny the fire is about 20 feet from my trail cam.... and 10 feet from this mornings gralloch pile! that's this stalk over then!

Had a look yesterday, fire was in the forestry just outside permission boundary. red bull cans left laying round and a attempt to hide the fire with leaves and throwing the burnt sticks all over the place. looks like they tried to cook some of the gralloch too!

some strange things we do see out in the woods!
 
As a post script, I’ve had suspicions for a long time that these two woods had been dogged out on a number of occasions, I think I was probably on the right track 🤬
 
Zeroing on Saturday. "Helloooo!" I demand to know what you are shooting!" From a sourfaced old crow on a bridleway 150 yds to my rear. Obvious retorts " I am killing a white rhino" or " none of your ruddy concern" came out as "a target" -didn't want my landlord copping any flack. Imperious DFL . Too many people in the country. They should be breaking rocks or going to church. Smiled sweetly and wished her a good day. Obviously looking for a row, best medicine for her was refusing to be roused. Clearly the most exciting thing to happen to her all day
 
Zeroing on Saturday. "Helloooo!" I demand to know what you are shooting!" From a sourfaced old crow on a bridleway 150 yds to my rear. Obvious retorts " I am killing a white rhino" or " none of your ruddy concern" came out as "a target" -didn't want my landlord copping any flack. Imperious DFL . Too many people in the country. They should be breaking rocks or going to church. Smiled sweetly and wished her a good day. Obviously looking for a row, best medicine for her was refusing to be roused. Clearly the most exciting thing to happen to her all day
Entitled idiots who dont realise that the countryside is managed and that is why they can ponse about with their dogs off lead and have some nice scenery to look at. Well done on being polite 👍
 
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