Cogswell & Harrison

[enfieldspares]

There must have been a lot of gunshops large and small back then in london

Yes, William Evans across from Lobb's, bootmakers, and Locke's, hatmakers, near St James's Palace are STILL there.

I at least saw C & H, John Wilkes at Beak Street...now that was FILTHY, Churchill and Etc on corner of St James and Pall Mall, Rigby on Pall Mall when Roberts, I think, owned it, and that was about it.

Plus Boss at Dover Street before they moved out of a "shop" in Central London altogether.

 

[LeftHandGuy]

I think it would be a fair bet to say that C&G like most other U.K. gunsmiths probably also produced most of their sporting rifles based on ex military or commercial Mauser actions.

OK, makes sense I suppose. As I said, the one I considered buying was recognizably derived from a P14/M1917 action, these were some of the photos the gun shop sent me:

 

[barryh]

Had a look at it again today CZ is stamped on the gun and C&H is on the stock

 

[enfieldspares]

In that case I'd "cost" it as a similar CZ and ask yourself if you want to pay a premium over and above that for the sake of its "C & H" butt logo!

Same as, in the related thread, the thing about a Webley named Webley 700 and a Gallyon named Webley 700.

It is what it is whoever other's name it bears...C & H or Gallyon.

 

[barryh]

Thanks that is what to do how would you rate CZ as a make

 

[LeftHandGuy]

Thanks that is what to do how would you rate CZ as a make

Very highly! perhaps some people might grumble about the OEM trigger, but I believe that can be upgraded fairly inexpensively. Mine was fine. Well made, simple good value mini-mauser action.

 

[enfieldspares]

Best sporting rifles £ for £ of any currently available. They have even now a performance rank above their cost.

They have also for the last thirty plus years set the benchmark accuracy standard for affordable Rimfire rifles.

 

[barryh]

Thanks for that i will let you know the cost difference when i find it out

 

[enfieldspares]

There's one huge caveat emptor! Is a CZ named CZ as good as...or better...or worse than a C & H named CZ?

Now that may sound odd but what is the accuracy guarantee from CZ on their rifles and what is the accuracy guarantee from C & H on their (CZ made) rifles?

It may be the same, it may be C & H are selected from the best of the batch. Or it may be they are the ones CZ reject!

 

[barryh]

very good point thanks for that

 

[barryh]

no price difference

 

[Roro]

I was down in Ballistec in Wexford a few weeks back, they have racks of cz's, they buy them in bulk and reckon they can't be beaten on price.

 

[barryh]

yes both gun makers are pricing around the same

 

[Roro]