Countryfile - shooting's role in the countryside

[jall55]

Hmm... 39 responses and only 3 posted after the piece aired.
To be honest, I think shooters of all types should be welcoming with open arms any main-stream exposure that isn't directly negative/critical. Especially if there's a chance its actually quite positive.

Antis will always be antis, but most people know nothing and care little about shooting. The only way they come to know about it is by being told, and if the only narrative they hear is anti, that's all they have to go on.

The BASC haters can say what they like, at least BASC are doing something

I think it was fairly good exposure
I think BASC should have - if they were allowed pushed the conservation aspect more - Our little shoot would wipe the floor with many rewilding projects for rewilding and inclusivity. It would have been nice for them to explore the syndicate type shoot or the little farmers gatherings.
I think the only real own goal was not serving game at the shoot meal

There is another thread running after the show was aired Simon

 

[Chill 123]

I though the Countryfile TV programme was very well presented and balanced .
Why is whenever BASC post any issue on this forum , the anti BASC members on this forum love to put the knife in ? If you don't want be a member then that's your choice . The two representatives from the shooting organisations did an excellent job in putting our case to of why we shoot in the program . Can I ask the anti BASC lobby who represents your views when talking to programs like Countryfile and Government departments ?

Chill

 

[opticron1]

I thought the programe was very good and a change from the usual anthropomorphic disneyesque drivel that Countryphobe usually churns out..... The anchor woman showed a keen interest and actually seemed to enjoy the day(s) as well as being happy to enjoy the pheasant at the end.
The chap from the NGO came over really well, BASC came out of it fairly well and the idiot from the RSPB was made to look a clown when e couldn't provide any evidence to show the increased risk of passing AI from driven birds to their wild cousins - rather the reverse seems to be true!
The only bit I found tedious was the hippy-dippy rewilding rubbish from Perthshire - they're happy to make a fortune from folk living in Yurts and eco-cabins on the estate, so they don't exactly need to "farm" or run a serious food production estate.
All in all, better than the usual rubbish on a Sunday night and good to see some dogs doing what they are bred for!

 

[Tazz]

Best to await the broadcast before commenting?

It was on yesterday

 

[Dunwaters]

It isn’t a pure leisure activity. For many people it is their livelihood and it has important cultural, social and environmental aspects.

What are the questions? Who is asking them and why? You may find the answers less than convincing, in which case you’re quite entitled to your opinion and everyone else is equally entitled not to suffer the imposition of it. Personally, I have never read or heard any argument for banning or restricting any form of shooting live quarry which has any merit whatsoever. They are exclusively politically motivated, frequently communist and power seeking.

Evidently you found this gun’s behaviour distasteful. I find much distasteful about large, driven shoots. So what? Remove guns like that from the equation and the environment, rural economy, livelihoods, culture and interest of other types of shooters suffer too. Distaste or revulsion are not a good reason to restrict or ban anything, and this principle is widely respected across the board. Why should different standards apply to particular forms of field sports?

Good morning, not for the first time we’ll agree to differ.
I don’t want to ban anything, but like yourself, I see much that I find distasteful. I would like to see some changes, such as a serious effort being made to develop the market for game and an end to those “bag filler” drives. If the guns can’t shoot thats tough, you fired xxx shots, that’s your lot.
It absolutely does irritate me when someone behaves with disrespect towards the game, the people who put in the effort to provide the day and the day itself, it annoys me even more when it goes unchallenged by those that are in a position to do
so ( I couldn’t ).
I don’t want to ban shooting, but there are some corners in the house that need sweeping out and airing.

 

[Liveonce]

brilliant cannot wait to book my 100 bird day of that welsh estate for £300 the other shoot at £1600 was more honest.

Then re wilding one only took £4000 from the games season more like £4000 on each days shooting

but not too bad for the BBC.

 

[HistoricBore]

I thought it was actually quite clear and useful - about time.

HB

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

Here is an update from BASC on last night's episode of Countryfile:

BASC talks shooting on Countryfile

Following Countryfile's most recent episode focused on shooting, Glynn Evans reflects on why it's important to engage with mainstream media.

basc.org.uk

 

[timbrayford]

Good expose but sadly detracted from by unwelcome and unnecessary b*ll**** opinions from the antis, no need to politicise the broadcast at all.
Pity that the BBC doesn't have the decency to allow the country sports community airtime to counter Packham's rants every time that he gobs off against us, it would only be fair to allow us a bit of "balance" too.

 

[FrenchieBoy]

I very much doubt that you will ever hear the words BBC and Balanced Opinions in the same sentence where any field sport is concerned!

 

[baguio]

A gun had shot his first ever pheasant so I took it from the picker up and handed it to him to pose for a photo, one of the other guns asked him what he was doing and remarked that he personally wouldn’t be touching any birds or taking any home to eat because of bird flu.
Both the gamekeeper and the estate manager overheard the remarks, neither said a word to the gun.

Who cares, except you? What did you want the keeper to say to him? He's paid for his day's shooting and paid his tip no doubt. He might have been a poultry farmer or kept poultry at home? More game for everyone else.

 

[Dunwaters]

Who cares, except you? What did you want the keeper to say to him? He's paid for his day's shooting and paid his tip no doubt. He might have been a poultry farmer or kept poultry at home? More game for everyone else.

Yes I care.
I think that anyone who picks up a gun to shoot at any live creature should care.
If you just want to shoot stuff and see it fall over, knock yourself out, but you won’t do it in my company twice.

 

[baguio]

Yes I care.
I think that anyone who picks up a gun to shoot at any live creature should care.
If you just want to shoot stuff and see it fall over, knock yourself out, but you won’t do it in my company twice.

So, what about all of those who go stag stalking in Scotland? I'm pretty sure that few of them take their stag home!
What if that gun also had his own shoot that is currently bird flu free. He would be and idiot to take it home with him from another shoot. He certainly wouldn't need the pheasant meat either.

 

[Dunwaters]

So, what about all of those who go stag stalking in Scotland? I'm pretty sure that few of them take their stag home!
What if that gun also had his own shoot that is currently bird flu free. He would be and idiot to take it home with him from another shoot. He certainly wouldn't need the pheasant meat either.

Ok, what about the people who stalk stags in Scotland?
I’d agree that bringing a bird into a disease free shoot represents a risk, but that wasn’t the case and no one needs pheasant meat nowadays, it’s a completely discretionary activity and market.
So what’s your point?
Are you trying to argue that people with zero empathy or interest should be encouraged to shoot at things just because they can afford it?

 

[jall55]

So, what about all of those who go stag stalking in Scotland? I'm pretty sure that few of them take their stag home!
What if that gun also had his own shoot that is currently bird flu free. He would be and idiot to take it home with him from another shoot. He certainly wouldn't need the pheasant meat either.

I think you are getting this out of context perhaps

It was the lads first ever pheasant - i took mine home and could not wait to show it everyone

If you are not even going to want to touch it after you have killed it i agree with Dunwater and think thats a pretty sad state of affairs

 

[baguio]

I think you are getting this out of context perhaps

It was the lads first ever pheasant - i took mine home and could not wait to show it everyone

If you are not even going to want to touch it after you have killed it i agree with Dunwater and think thats a pretty sad state of affairs

No, I think you're getting it out of context and have clearly ignored my posts giving possible reasons.
Was bird flu about when you shot your first pheasant?
I shot at an estate three times this year that had bird flu. Every bird shot went to the incinerator! Shoot me now for wasting those birds (or not wasting them as they flew perfectly well and tested the dogs just the same!) Maybe I should have taken them to non-infected areas to please the SD massive?

 

[jall55]

No, I think you're getting it out of context and have clearly ignored my posts giving possible reasons.
Was bird flu about when you shot your first pheasant?
I shot at an estate three times this year that had bird flu. Every bird shot went to the incinerator! Shoot me now for wasting those birds (or not wasting them as they flew perfectly well and tested the dogs just the same!) Maybe I should have taken them to non-infected areas to please the SD massive?

Well simply

More fool you !