Hi, also shoot a large piece of land on the opposite sitde of the road to the mountain bike track in Llandegla. Never seen any sign of deer neither has the farmer and hes been there 30 - 40 years. Ill keep you posted if I do though...Great piece of land for deer if they ever appear.
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Hi, also shoot a large piece of land on the opposite sitde of the road to the mountain bike track in Llandegla. Never seen any sign of deer neither has the farmer and hes been there 30 - 40 years. Ill keep you posted if I do though...Great piece of land for deer if they ever appear.
Not sure, ive not seen anybody there in the past 3 months ive been shooting there. The farmer did say to watch out for poachers at night!!! Its a great place, Farmer is a sheep farmer who had big probs with foxes...I say had because we shot 8 in total
Do you live in that area?
paul k
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Not too much grouse shooting in the area these days although grouse are hanging on where there is a bit of heather. I did manage to get a day at Cynwyd a few years ago although they were quite thin on the ground. I was also recently overtaken by a blackcock whilst driving at 40 mph not too far from Bodidris.
I know people in South Wales who always came to the Denbigh Moors every year for the grouse shooting but that was several decades back.
Good numbers of blackcock down Vyrnwy way and around Clocaenog/Brenig, or so I'm told. I'm not surprised that bird passed you at more than 40mph. It probably took one look through the window at Bodidris and saw enough to last a lifetime...
I believe Llandegla was always thought of as a two day moor and yes there are still birds there. I heard of a party taking a day over pointers there last year but they only managed a couple of brace.
I believe Llandegla was always thought of as a two day moor and yes there are still birds there. I heard of a party taking a day over pointers there last year but they only managed a couple of brace.
A group of Irish guys go to Bodidris for a couple of days every year and shoot over pointers.
The guy I work for lives in Bryneglws and owns about 40 acres of heather hill and quite often he can see red and black grouse on the hillside
The real finish of the moor was when they planted Llandegla forest it pretty well cut the Grouse moor into two parts.
The guy I work for lives in Bryneglws and owns about 40 acres of heather hill and quite often he can see red and black grouse on the hillside
The real finish of the moor was when they planted Llandegla forest it pretty well cut the Grouse moor into two parts.
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Moonraker68
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I shot my first red grouse 3 years ago on a moor above Blaenavon, and have managed a few more on subsequent trips. It is a real privilige to be able to shoot grouse so close to home. Hoping to arrange a trip to try for sewin before too long, then a Welsh deer to complete a prolonged Macnab!
Moonraker68
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Not sure about that - but with my fishing skills it will certainly be a ******* miracle!
paul k
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I came close, the day I was referring to at Cynwyd was a pheasant/grouse combined day which was mostly rubbish as in early October the pheasants are far too immature to fly properly and when the beaters entered the coverts the birds ran to them to be fed!! I heard my neighbouring gun laughing on the other side of a hedge and when I looked through he was standing at his peg surrounded by birds. I refused to shoot them. The grouse came after lunch and it was to be two drives, the moor was on a hillside and I elected to go furthest up as I thought the grouse were more likely to fly that way. We had two coveys of red grouse flushed and both flew even further up the hill than I was and I had a long range poke at them but unsurprisingly missed.
What really ruined the day for me was when on the first drive, the dogs put up a couple of blackcock about 400 yards away, one went too far wide but the other was heading straight for me, what's more the set of its wings indicated that it was intending to pitch in a few yards behind me. It was flying as high as a pheasant and as fast as the red grouse but slowly descending and I put my gun up, as the bird closed to about 40 yards I swung through it and BANG!!!! the barsteward on the next peg dropped it at my feet
. He raised a hand in apology but knew damned well what he'd done and my look should have turned him to stone.... words were completely unecessary.. probably my only chance at a Welsh blackcock gone in a moment of utmost selfishness.I've caught many a Welsh sewin, I've shot a few Welsh fallow deer but the McNab will probably elude me now, however I'd really want a Welsh roebuck as the deer component. I do have access to roe near the border but sadly anything shot would be about 3 miles the wrong side of the border. There are however roe just starting to get established on another piece of ground that is inside Wales and when there are enough to cull a buck or two... who knows?
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paul k
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I fact they were still shooting driven grouse on Llangynidr Moor just to the north of Blaenavon long after the North Wales moors had ceased, and the area shot over extended into north Monmouthshire where the annual records of breeding birds always included red grouse on these moors. You could also find them up on the top slopes of the Sugarloaf.
Moonraker68
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Ireland Moor near Builth was sold in 2008 (I think), but I don't know if its still being managed for grouse. It would be a shame to lose the grouse from Wales; there are a very few pairs on Dartmoor, but otherwise the Peak District must be the nearest place.
Shooting.sh mention grouse shooting in North Wales on their website, but I don't know anyone who has been with them.
Shooting.sh mention grouse shooting in North Wales on their website, but I don't know anyone who has been with them.
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8x57
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Some of them are managed and a small number of red grouse taken each year by certain local estates, or they were untill recent years. But what chance is there for bird numbers to rise when every local cowboy thinks they have a right to wander over the mountain carrying a gun, and there are a lot of cowboys about in these areas.
Your right about that 8x57. There are a few pheasants and woodcock in limited location in the Pontypool area but the number if people popping them off meens we never get any significant numbers. I even here of local boys at the pigeon clubs culling the small number if sparrow hawks we have. It disgusts me!
This has been quiet for quite sometime now but has anyone got any updates on locations, Oswestry and Llangollen area???
Last summer a neighbouring farmers daughter told me she had seen a lone deer in one of their fields in the Selattyn(east of) area. No clue of what species.
All the best
James
Last summer a neighbouring farmers daughter told me she had seen a lone deer in one of their fields in the Selattyn(east of) area. No clue of what species.
All the best
James
8x57
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As this thread was originally started in 2007 (13/14 years ago) I suppose there probably have been a few changes Adrian. I know nothing of the situation around your neck of the woods (Oswestry) but I do know that things have changed a bit in the area local to me which is much further south. In the last couple of years we have seen more roe which previously were a rarity and boar have made their presence known in some areas.
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