Deer licks

[Tim.243]

They can indeed help themselves. But putting extra feed out for wild animals that are not a threatened population isn't needed and, as the studies from America show associated with increased disease spread. So no benefit and potential harm so don't do it.

The particular question that started the thread may be a reasonable thing to do in order to manage the deer population (either no permission or a difficult area to manage)

Yes it was started in the UK and the US is a far different beast, with us having badgers passing on TB.
The horsey people have salt licks in their open areas!

And as I pointed out lots of deer get sick in areas with out salt licks so you can't point the finger at that.
If it was a major problem then the mags you tube on here would be full of it............making a mountain out of a mole hill as normal.

What next is waiting to join the list..........? Wrong colour gloves

 

[VSS]

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What next is waiting to join the list..........? Wrong colour gloves

Now you come to mention it......
It should always be blue nitrile gloves for handling carcasses that'll be going into the food chain.
Very often see photos of people wearing the wrong colour gloves.

 

[Buchan]

Yes it was started in the UK and the US is a far different beast, with us having badgers passing on TB.
The horsey people have salt licks in their open areas!

And as I pointed out lots of deer get sick in areas with out salt licks so you can't point the finger at that.
If it was a major problem then the mags you tube on here would be full of it............making a mountain out of a mole hill as normal.

What next is waiting to join the list..........? Wrong colour gloves

The TB in badgers is a good example of why putting food out for eg deer is a bad idea. They spread TB because, in part, of an unusually large number, way more than Scotland or mainland Europe. part of that is the food availability like maize silage. TB in deer is more common in the herding species. So bring them together and you increase the risk.

 

[Tim.243]

The TB in badgers is a good example of why putting food out for eg deer is a bad idea. They spread TB because, in part, of an unusually large number, way more than Scotland or mainland Europe. part of that is the food availability like maize silage. TB in deer is more common in the herding species. So bring them together and you increase the risk.

And when you don't put out food for deer and they get sick then explain that......5 guineas please...

 

[VSS]

And when you don't put out food for deer and they get sick then explain that......5 guineas please...

Of course deer get sick where licks aren't provided. The licks themselves don’t make deer sick. No-one has suggested that they do.
However, encouraging deer to concentrate in one area will facilitate accelerated spread of infection, and result in a higher proportion of the population being affected.
Surely you can see that?

 

[Buchan]

And when you don't put out food for deer and they get sick then explain that......5 guineas please...

Not sure what you mean? I've been talking about the increased risk of spread by artificial feeding not the actual incidence of ill animals

 

[shakey jake]

Not sure what you mean? I've been talking about the increased risk of spread by artificial feeding not the actual incidence of ill animals

i wouldnt try to understand

 

[Tim.243]

Not sure what you mean? I've been talking about the increased risk of spread by artificial feeding not the actual incidence of ill animals

What I am saying is in areas where salt licks/artificial feeding is not used deer still become ill from a number of aliments.
As an example lots of badgers around my ground lots of healthy muntjac/fallow/reds also no artificial feeding so I will take a punt at saying if I found a sick deer (2 muntjac from 400 I have shot) that it was not passed on from a salt lick as they had been previously hit by a car.
What figures are you seeing that you can pass on?

 

[Ratel]

Never used mineral blocks for wild deer
A friend tried them on "Roe paths" but the deer walked round them, they were on posts.
I have used rock salt blocks in parks for Fallow and for a red deer herd I owned, they seemed to love them. Sugar beet is a good draw for wild Fallow if necessary.
Another I used for Sika was heaped sugar beet pulp, worked well after rain on it, and helped us keepers in Sitka forestry blocks.

 

[BenBhoy]

Very true, it’s like shagging the village bicycle

Ahh those were the days

 

[HonestJohn]

Ahh those were the days

And there were licks too!

 

[shakey jake]

And there were licks too!

but you didnt want that salty!

 

[BenBhoy]

but you didnt want that salty!

You wouldn't have had much choice with her!!

 

[shakey jake]

You wouldn't have had much choice with her!!

wet wipe?

 

[HonestJohn]

wet wipe?

Ring the bell

 

[shakey jake]

Ring the bell

couldnt find the gag emoji

 

[HonestJohn]

couldnt find the gag emoji

Name the movie

 

[shakey jake]

Name the movie

thats lost on me, almost like you come from essex

 

[johnnytheboy]

Hi,

Has anyone used sheep / cattle mineral and molasses licks with any great success on deer?
Things like lifeline ewe and lamb or stowag mineral lick?

Thx in advance

The Bushwear one is decent for the money, takes them a few months to find it, put it on an untreated wooden post as it impregnates the wood, they tend to lick the wood rather than the block.

 

[HonestJohn]

thats lost on me, almost like you come from essex

You’ll need to watch some old Vietnam flix, there’s a scene where after a prostitute is done with each client. She reaches a rag to wipe herself; pulling the rag rings a bell, indicating she’s ready for the next. Hence, ring the bell.

I’m not from Essex