Difference between Barnes VOR-TX and VOR-TX Euro?

[wytonpjs]

Help?

I recently bought and fired some Barnes .308 130gr VOR-TX in preparation for shooting in Scotland. The boxes quote muzzle velocity in fps and distance/drop in yards and inches. I've just gone back to the same supplier and bought 2 boxes of his new stock but the boxes are different, marked up in m/s and metres/cms and are labelled VOR-TX Euro. Both are .308 and 130gr TTSX. Question: is there any difference in the round? Being the sceptical sod I am I've just measured COAL and the Euro rounds are 9 thou shorter; they are also not sealed around the primer and the cases are all stained. Photos illustrate the difference in the box marking (top is actually .270 130gr but the second is "old" and new .308 130gr for comparison. Having set up the scope and the ballistics, is there going to be a difference? Any advice welcomed since range opportunity between now and going (COVID not-withstanding) are limited.

 

[monarman]

Interesting that your supplier has those... ive just checked my 6.5cm rounds and they aren't sealed around the primer....
A bit of a search brings up the release date of the vortex euro at 2016.... so I'm guessing they could be old stock ....

its highly possible that they may be loaded slightly different as they are loaded to meet cip standards as opposed sammi standards....I would try a couple on a target first before shooting an animal as they may shoot slightly different or indeed very different.

Raytrade are the Barnes importer for the uk and although barnes list the euro on their site (European calibres are listed) I've not seen anything from raytrade to push the euro version.

Mine were bought from swillington a couple of months the ago and were the standard vortex....

Perhaps someone else knows better...

 

[Yorric]

Ask Barnes.
Test POI on target before using on game.,,,,, best practise whenever a new batch is started.
Ian

 

[Selous]

952 m/sec = 3123ft/sec by my calculations so the box suggests a difference providing other variables (eg barrel length) are similar. A few shots at the target will tell you, but in my experience, this bullet is not difficult to get to shoot well so I’m sure all will be well.

 

[wytonpjs]

Ask Barnes.
Test POI on target before using on game.,,,,, best practise whenever a new batch is started.
Ian

Well I did this morning via their website at 9:57 and at 10:06 today (Sunday) I got a reply from Richard Ryan saying:

“The round is exactly the same albeit in different packaging. Any difference in length will be within factory tolerances.”

And, following further discussion:

”The dark tarnishing is normal and won’t affect the round. Barnes use brass with low tin content which tends to tarnish in European humidity levels - the American packaged product is slightly newer so yours hasn’t had a chance to tarnish, but I do see the same with the older American packaged ammo (6 months +). I would consider yours as mild tarnishing. It’s only green corrosion that would be of concern.

The colour around the primer is not difference that Remington have highlighted to me, so I imagine it’s just down to batch - however I’ll check and come back to you next week.”

Now, that’s what I call service I’m impressed with Raytrade’s service

 

[njc110381]

I had a conversation recently with Raytrade regarding loading components and ammunition for an unusual calibre I'm having built. In fact I spoke to a number of distributors of various makes. Out of all of them, Raytrade were by far the most helpful and efficient. I'm not at all surprised that you were impressed. Compared to a lot of the distributors I've grown used to dealing with they're a breath of fresh air!

 

[Heym SR20]

Good practice is always hunt with the same batch, if not same box that you have zeroed with.

in everyday hunting how many rounds do you actually need for a hunting trip. 2 to check zero when you get there and I for each animal you shoot.

A box full is more than enough. But i always take 40!