Driving Conviction - Will I Lose FAC/SGC?
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Stalker62
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Yes.
It is no different to your 'DoorCam" capturing the image of a burglar without his/her/their knowledge.
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The new system of grassing people off seems to be quite popular….
Stalker62
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BTW this is in no way a reflection on the OP who was open enough to post of his "faux pas".
I had DashCam fitted to the truck a year or so following my wife's 'no fault' accident. Had she had a DashCam the fault (other driver) would have been clear.
Last year over 55,000 DashCam recordings of 'dangerous' driving were reported to the Police. 70% of videos sent in resulted in punishment for offenders, ranging from warning letters to driving convictions and bans.
Like it or not - it's here and it's working.
Morkai
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Plus, it makes great YouTube content of people being t*ts.
If it were me, I would be worried it may be viewed as a tad more serious than a normal traffic signal situation, If you had suffered a mechanical breakdown on the crossing whilst in the flashing red lamps sequence ...............?
Just one way it could be viewed.
Just one way it could be viewed.
Potentially it will come down to if the Chief Constable continues to consider you a fit and proper person.
As it looks like no charge for dangerous driving then hopefully you will be ok. If offered the course rather than a fine and points I would take it as it is less likely to impact on your ownership of firearms as it is only offered for relatively minor offences which will be recognised by the FEO where as points and a fine could be seen as a more serious charge.
Normally it is repeat offender of motoring violations like speeding (but not charged with dangerous driving) that lose their firearms license as it shows repeated disrespect of the law.
As it looks like no charge for dangerous driving then hopefully you will be ok. If offered the course rather than a fine and points I would take it as it is less likely to impact on your ownership of firearms as it is only offered for relatively minor offences which will be recognised by the FEO where as points and a fine could be seen as a more serious charge.
Normally it is repeat offender of motoring violations like speeding (but not charged with dangerous driving) that lose their firearms license as it shows repeated disrespect of the law.
Jeff8861
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Sorry but you are totally wrong
Jeff8861
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Yes forces have a specific section now who deal with dash cam evidence. Dash cam evidence is which is accepted in both civil and criminal procedures
You’ve admitted to doing something “stupid and dangerous”
1. Driving like a “dick”
Or…
2. Posting your admission for all to see
Its not the court that revokes the licence, It is DVLA, usually they write to the driver informing them that it has happened and that they are no longer a licence holder. It is different entirely from a ban.
Jeff8861
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If you are risk to others in any format you risk losing you guns. In regards to minor traffic offences if you continue to come to the attention of the police you will be asked to VS. For example three speeding in a year drink or drug driving, dangerous driving. Remember you don't even need to be convicted. These all come under the banner of intemperate habits. It's highly likely that the oic will be asked to provide a written report outlining the circumstances and the attitude of the offender/suspect to the flm. If the flm views the footage and they deam it to be horrendous they could ask you to VS. In these cases you could call thier bluff but I wouldnt advise this, as the next process would be revocation. If they ask to VS accept it but enquire re re applying within a few years. If this was me I would submit a letter to the flm outlining the circumstances and remorse preferably before the oic of the case does. Doing this I would suspect that you may receive a written warning.
Jeff8861
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The guy is obviously worried and wanted advice. What difference does it make posting admission on here. When you come to the attention of the police it automatically gets switched to firearms licensing. You don't need to be suspect you could be a victim or witness. All certificate holders have markers on them and thier home address.You’ve admitted to doing something “stupid and dangerous”
1. Driving like a “dick”
Or…
2. Posting your admission for all to see
Let’s hope intemperate posts on this site don’t see your kit lifted.
K
K
You’re missing the point…
if Firearms licensing decides that you are no longer “a suitable person” then your FAC is revoked.
Admitting to doing something “stupid and dangerous” isn’t a good idea.
Do you think this forum is private…?
DG
Driving like a w@nker is quite popular as well.
If "grassing people up" goes on to prevent just a handful of the 30,000ish deaths or serious injuries that occur on our roads each year then it's well worth it.
In answer to the OPs question - very unlikely you'll lose your certificates. Fixed penalty and three points most likely outcome.
Morkai
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The court issuing 6 points would have lead to the ban. So the court issuing that penalty would be essentially banning him by the penalty.
He didnt get a 56 day ban from the Magistrates either.
Stalker62
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It matters not that the OP posted.
The Old Bill (and the FLD) will be made aware through their own internal processes, and they will make their decision based on the offences he has committed.
purdeydog
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Course it is. Whats the point of cctv otherwise.
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