DSC2 thanks to sikamalc and ianf

scrumbag

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Well, today I got my DSC2 cert through the post.

I did my first ever deer stalk with @sikamalc and shot my first ever deer with @IanF. So, it seemed rather fitting I did my 3 DSC stalks with those guys.

1st of November was a Friday and saw me drive down from SW London to Holmbush to meet Malc.

After a brew and a chat we piled into Malc's truck and did a short drive to a woodland block. Did a dainty hop over the ditch, loaded up and off we went.

Stalked down a few rides, quite a warm and muggy morning so the deer seemed to start moving late. A munty darted across the ride infront of me but nothing like a shot presented. Set up and waited to see if anything else popped out. A fox came down the ride towards us. We were frozen. Now, I grow up in N Wales which grows 2 things: Lambs and birds for shooting. You could say my desire to shoot foxes is strong. Anyway, this fox kept coming... I was starting to sweat and I could feel the thumb wanting to go for the safety... Eventually the fox made us and left... It goes against the grain to let a fox walk but given this was an assessed stalk, needs must...

We upped sticks and headed to a spot where 2 rides intersected and was in the general direction of a fallow buck we could hear grunting. Popped the rifle on sticks and waited. Not long and another munty darted across infront of us - I was praying that was not going to be the story of the morning. Couple of minutes later and a mature fallow doe crosses the ride in front. Swing round and there are some yearlings followers: Low whistle and one's stopped clear: Crosshairs, drift back behind leg - bang! Good strike and a double foot kick: We could be in business - but wait there's more. Deer bounced into a patch a rhodedendrons... a several acre patch of rhodendrons...

Waited a few mins, then went down to look for the impact site on the ride. Bit of trouble finding blood. back to the shot site looked down, tried again and found a good patch of blood with pink lung tissue. "Good deer is likely down and likely dead" was my thinking. Now just a question of where. It was raining a fair but started training a decent blood train that started to peter out... bugger. Well after a lot of quartering back an forth, found the deer about 70 yds from where it was hit having run in a semi circle around the exit - couple more steps and would have been back on the ride. Approached a very dead deer and noticed some of the lung had blown through the exit.

Did a quick inspection, a couple of Qs from Malc and back to the larder for a gralloch - I mainly shoot munties and had forgotten how heavy even a small fallow can be! Fortunately gralloched worked well enough and 1 in the bag...

TBC...
 
After sorting all that out, headed back to the bothy for a fry up, bit of a chat and a nap. Then followed tea, a brief and then out for the the second stalk.

Roe does were the quarry this time. Barren does for choice or young doe follower if that presented.

Coming into the second field we saw some deer lying down but not easy to approach. We started moving off and started a doe and a female follower from virtuallyn under foot. Rifle, sticks, barked and the follower stopped at 70 yds. Bang! Nothing happened... sickened feeling as deer bounced off totally unscathed. I'd pulled the shot in the rush...

Tried to sneak in on another couple of deer but got busted. Then rounded a corner and saw 3 roe down in the corner of a field. 2 bucks and fairly mature doe without a kid... we could be back in business...

Snuck down a track using the hedges for cover and got to a point 110 yds from the deer. Set up on the sticks and waited. Fortunately we didn't have to wait too long before the doe stood up. Turned and presented a quartering from behind shot. No jitters, this time - bang, flop (Typical, fluff the easy broadside shot but make the tough shot threading the bullet behind the nearside shoulder and infront of the offside shoulder). Gave her a few mins, then went over to collect. On the way back to truck, bumped into game keeper. Quite a few roe out 3 fields further over...

Piled into the truck, piled out. Located a group of 3 roe. Approached to about 150 yds and set up with the forend resting on a downed tree branch and shortened sticks under the butt. Sadly didn't present a shot and cleared off.

Back to the larder, gralloch went OK. Bit of fun finding finding the mediastinal gland, think I shot it off as bullet severed wind pipe. Write up done and 2 for 3 on DSC2 stalks...

One to go...
 
Just arrived at the BB in Bedfordshire to start back on the CWD with clients tomorrow morning. Thought I would check in on the site :) only to find Scrummy has written up his stalks for his Level 2 with me.
A bit more luck in the afternoon Mike and you would have done all 3 in one day with me. We ended up I think with 7 Roe in the corner of the field before the light beat us. Much better to do it this way than a fenced park, which I do not agree with.

Well done Mike.
 
Sunday 18th December saw me piling into the car for an early start up to Ian's ground near Bedford.

After meeting near a service station we headed to the ground and made a start. Put on a Stalk almost straight out the gate but couldn't close the distance fast enough on a muntjac. Back tracked a bit then spent an enjoyable but frustrating game with a young CWD buck that flirted with the sky line, every bush / thick patch of grass it could, bits of hedge I couldn't get a shot through, finally thought the buck was going to come through the hedge onto the track we were standing on (Looks like might be a 20yd free hand shot, turn mag down hold the breathing... and wind swings and we're busted!

Went for a mooch a bit further on, startled a couple and saw some we would get no where near.

Called it a morning. Breakfasted, nap in the car then met up again for the afternoon session.

Went out early in the afternoon having left some CWD sunning themselves contentedly out on the stubble slopes. Started the stalk and realised I'd forgotten the roe sack with the gralloching kit... (Thought stalking was enjoyable... and "light"... and "Comfortable"). Anyway, at least only a few hundred yards in...

So restart. A relatively long walk to get round the wind and skirted boundary a bit glassing into the bowles for a likely victim cull plan fitting animal.
After a few fields, came across a buck sitting lying out on a ridge line. Closed the distance to ~140m and set up behind a shortish hedge on quad sticks.
After what seemed like an age, the buck stood and started to graze down the hill. All good, bit bit more, bit more... then i see a pair of ears go through the bottom of my scope - A doe had crossed our windline and went up off and over the hill at a rate of knots, taking rutting buck with here.

Went off in hot pursuit, glanced over the hill and nothing in the far bowl. Crept round the corner of the hedge and there were the buck and the doe, bit over 100yds and broad side, looking at me. And the wind's not great. Sticks up, rifle, everything seen on ground is on cull list so first one scope settles on gets culled. Bang. Flop. But there's a fair bit a thrashing around. "Scamper" forward (Good giggle there for anyone who knows me and my well insulated, 6'2" well insulated 100kg + anatomy...) and cover the beast 'till all still. Eye ball test and it's all over. On inspection turned out I hit a little further forward than intended point of shoulder and went through base of spine and carotid so all been over very quickly.

Did the gralloch without green stuff going everywhere and back to the car. Deer in cooler and now sitting in my freezer in bits.
 
Well done mate
I can understand why you chose Malc, but after you having suffered IanF's "jokes" - you went back to him? :oops::oops::rolleyes:

Cheers buddy,

Don't tell Ian but he still can't work out why I stalk in volume control ear defenders ;)
 
Just arrived at the BB in Bedfordshire to start back on the CWD with clients tomorrow morning. Thought I would check in on the site :) only to find Scrummy has written up his stalks for his Level 2 with me.
A bit more luck in the afternoon Mike and you would have done all 3 in one day with me. We ended up I think with 7 Roe in the corner of the field before the light beat us. Much better to do it this way than a fenced park, which I do not agree with.

Well done Mike.

Thanks Malc! Nice to do it properly. Now I just need the "Scottish experience"

Good luck on the CWD!

Scrummy
 
Well I still have space for the highlands this year. Trevor was considering it I think. All you have to do is turn up at Inverness we will sort it all from there. Plus you would be fed like a king with Sandra's home cooked meals.
 
Sorry for the long winded write-up folks but I wanted to thank Malc and Ian for the experiences and the teaching I've had from them.

I think it is worth mentioning that despite being examined / assessed I still really enjoyed the experience.

I would say to anyone who wants to do some stalking with a guide, I keep going back to these two. I've not always got deer with them, but when I haven't, I've never felt that it was because I've been walked out on ground without a decent chance of deer or their lack of effort. Sadly I can't say that about some who I have been out with.

So, my thanks again gents! Hope to stalk with you again.

Scrummy
 
Well done. Developed into a much better stalker and shot than your original mentor.

David.

I don't know about that. I still remember sneaking around after rabbits with an air rifle, nothing wrong with the fundamentals there! And there's nothing wrong with the way you put down deer either ;) Just look at the brow-tined munty you smacked!

Scrummy
 
How did the asseesment side of it go?

Fine, was worried it would be far worse than it was. Basically Malc and Ian just followed a few yards behind keeping a low profile. Gralloch I think the main thing to remember is to try to be logical and take your time. There's no time limit so you can do things at your pace.

The assessment call was alright, I got asked a question about an ATV, something I've never used for deer extraction myself so had to muddle through that a bit but otherwise OK.

Scrummy
 
I don't know about that. I still remember sneaking around after rabbits with an air rifle, nothing wrong with the fundamentals there! And there's nothing wrong with the way you put down deer either ;) Just look at the brow-tined munty you smacked!

Scrummy
That was the one that hopped off and hid with the heart pulped and one shoulder smashed! Hardly bang flop! :D

David.
 
That was the one that hopped off and hid with the heart pulped and one shoulder smashed! Hardly bang flop! :D

David.

That was it. Couldn't believe it got as far as a tripod and throwing blood like an F1 driver sprays champagne.

Literally text book shot: top 2 chambers of heart gone and farside shoulder broke. After being hit by a 7x64 with a 165gr bullet... And in totally non-DSC2 style ended up finding it with an iphone torch as left my head torch in the car! Muppet!
 
That's Mr. ScRumbag to you!

(But thanks, used my 257 Roberts with the Conetrol mounts for all 3 stalks, hope you approve)

Scrummy
Not sure how I made that error but I did correct it immediately but clearly not immediately enough!

Perhaps there should be a third L2 option that recognises the easthetic values of the Candidate's approach to his/her equipment.

The quarter bore rocks!

K
 
Not sure how I made that error but I did correct it immediately but clearly not immediately enough!

Perhaps there should be a third L2 option that recognises the easthetic values of the Candidate's approach to his/her equipment.

The quarter bore rocks!

K

Don't you worry! Just pulling your leg. The Quarterbore does rock and Ned really got it right with that chambering
 
Well done fella and Malc:thumb:

Dejavue springs to mind as I almost got my 3 ICRs with Malc two days later...

If one of these had been a doe for my third shot, it would have been done in a day :)

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